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can anybody recommend a budget 4tb ssd with dram cache?

Do you need dram? I'd say for most uses like storing games, dram isn't needed, and a cheaper dramless drive will work just fine. I'd get something like a crutical p3 for games and most other uses, but if you want dram and don't mind spending > 100 USD more the 990 pro is pretty fast, or a gm7000 for a bit cheaper.

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dram is not really used to cache files, it's used to hold information about where files are located in the flash memory chips. So it only matters if you have to read lots and lots of very small files, or access random database records with hundreds of simultaneous connections etc etc

 

also a qlc drive with dram will be much worse than a tlc drive that uses hmb (host memory buffer - "borrowing" some ram from computer and accessing it through pci-e lanes.

 

kingston nv2 claims to still use TLC memory, with around 1280 TBW endurance and 5 years warranty and it's 250$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CKpQzy/kingston-nv2-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s4000g

 

crucial p3 plus uses QLC and it's around 3$ more : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PPpzK8/crucial-p3-plus-4-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct4000p3pssd8

 

It is rated for around 800 TBW, and basically can use almost if not all empty space as slc write cache, so you wouldn't feel how slow qlc is unless you fill up the slc cache (ex you have 1 TB of free space, that's around 250 GB of slc write cache, if you write 300 GB in one shot, as soon as 250 GB are transferred the drive has to convert portions of slc back to qlc so the speeds will drop to maybe 100-200 MB/s)

 

I'd trust Crucial more but if it's only for games and stuff I can redownload, Kingston's fine.

 

WD SN850x is $350 ... uses proper TLC, has some dram (1 GB), 2400 TBW endurance, can get 7.3GB reads , 6.6 GB writes  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBC48d/western-digital-black-sn850x-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t2x0e

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Do you need dram? I'd say for most uses like storing games, dram isn't needed, and a cheaper dramless drive will work just fine. I'd get something like a crutical p3 for games and most other uses, but if you want dram and don't mind spending > 100 USD more the 990 pro is pretty fast, or a gm7000 for a bit cheaper.

I do cause i do video editing 

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16 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

I do cause i do video editing 

What bitrates are you working with? You probably don't need a dram cached drive for almost all editing. Dramless drives still typically more than fast enough for editing.

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2 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

I do cause i do video editing 

Do you have this idea because its something you heard was important but haven't really looked into how modern NVMe drives operate?

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26 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Do you have this idea because its something you heard was important but haven't really looked into how modern NVMe drives operate?

can you just recommend an ssd?

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7 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

can you just recommend an ssd?

SN850x

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4 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it budget?

 

Bud, its been 5 days. "Budget" isn't a number. You can highlight it, right click it and hit Search with Google to look up a price and decide that for yourself. You didn't want to listen to why this DRAM requirement didn't make any sense and wanted a recommendation, you got one. If its in your budget that's up to you.

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1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Bud, its been 5 days. "Budget" isn't a number. You can highlight it, right click it and hit Search with Google to look up a price and decide that for yourself. You didn't want to listen to why this DRAM requirement didn't make any sense and wanted a recommendation, you got one. If its in your budget that's up to you.

bud, i was in surgery for 5 days.

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i have some 512GB s*** in my pc and i need a new one.

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18 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

i have some 512GB s*** in my pc and i need a new one.

Budget ?

Really the cheapest NVMe are often more than fast enough for anything, unless you're really moving lots of TB around disks...

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Aside from budget it's important to know what kind of footage you're editing. If you're gonna try scrubbing through 8k footage it's going to be a very different recommendation compared to if you're just cutting up some 1080p

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basically doesnt matter till you are dealing with massive files and time is money if you are doing this for a living or even as a side hustle

 

if you arent dealing with massive files and dont really need the speed just get the best value thing available, usually itll be a dram gen 3 or an sn580 for 1tb and a dram gen 4 for 2/4tb

 

if you need the speed go for a gen5 like the t700/t705

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1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said:

bud, i was in surgery for 5 days.

doesn't mean you can't search up something to find out.

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3 minutes ago, tkitch said:

doesn't mean you can't search up something to find out.

give him a break, he was operating for 5 days straight...


And back to the topic, what's your PC (CPU, mobo) (just to make sure it's compatible and will run full speed)

 

 

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I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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I am dealing with massive files.

The worst part is that i need storage for my games too

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1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said:

I am dealing with massive files.

The worst part is that i need storage for my games too

What is a 'massive file' to you? What bitrate files are you editing from? What cameras footage are you editing? What cards are you pulling off of?

 

From my experience editing, your limited by something other than the drive most of the time. Your drive is probably faster than a SD/CFx card for offloading. Most footage is maybe a few hundred mbit at max, and almost any drive can scrub that easily. If your working with something like 8k raw that really needs fast disks, you probably have a bigger budget for a premium drive.

 

How big do you want this drive to be?

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4 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

I am dealing with massive files.

The worst part is that i need storage for my games too

I'd grab a massive used HDD. You can get 12TBs for about 100$
https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/manufacturer-recertified-drives/products/hgst-ultrastar-he12-0f29590-huh721212ale600-12tb-7-2k-rpm-sata-6gb-s-512e-256mb-cache-3-5-ise-power-disable-pin-manufacturer-recertified-hdd
Then just use any decent 1 or 2TB NVMe SSD for boot. Also, def reinstall windows rather than trying to clone your drive

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