PC games running on "Windows on Snapdragon"

[WiredController]

I was wondering if you guys could try to install a top pc title to a computer running Windows on Snapdragon that is using the Snapdragon X Elite.

Qualcomm's Issam Khalil say's it'll work but I'd like to see someone actually do it. Or at least try. Thanks for reading.
 

 

[GuiltySpark_]

I'm sure when you can actually buy them and people get them we'll find out. 

 

However if gaming on a laptop interests you, none of those will be your best bet. 

[Shimejii]

22 minutes ago, WiredController said:

I was wondering if you guys could try to install a top pc title to a computer running Windows on Snapdragon that is using the Snapdragon X Elite.

Qualcomm's Issam Khalil say's it'll work but I'd like to see someone actually do it. Or at least try. Thanks for reading.
 

 

Its gonna be a pretty big let down Dont spend money on products to be a beta tester.

[Doobeedoo]

We have to wait and see once those are out. I also wonder, though not necessarily all games but some just to have on the go.

[Mark Kaine]

On 6/15/2024 at 3:34 AM, GuiltySpark_ said:

I'm sure when you can actually buy them and people get them we'll find out. 

 

However if gaming on a laptop interests you, none of those will be your best bet. 

 

On 6/15/2024 at 4:31 PM, Doobeedoo said:

We have to wait and see once those are out. I also wonder, though not necessarily all games but some just to have on the go.

 

Fret not everything works extremely well, as promised. 

 

AMD/Intel had a good run!

 

 

[Doobeedoo]

6 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

 

 

Fret not everything works extremely well, as promised. 

 

AMD/Intel had a good run!

 

 

Hmm. Curious to see more once other devices are out. Though I primarily want to know how WoW will run, should run solid. But oof the price of current Asus X1E 78 chip model is €1600 at my retail. For that price, basically everything needs to run well.

[PDifolco]

On 6/15/2024 at 3:21 AM, WiredController said:

I was wondering if you guys could try to install a top pc title to a computer running Windows on Snapdragon that is using the Snapdragon X Elite.

Qualcomm's Issam Khalil say's it'll work but I'd like to see someone actually do it. Or at least try. Thanks for reading.
 

 

DDTS just made a video yesterday about it, it's not great ...

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, Doobeedoo said:

Though I primarily want to know how WoW will run, should run solid. But oof the price of current Asus X1E 78 chip model is €1600 at my retail. For that price, basically everything needs to run well.

i mean i kinda doubt it, even older games that mostly run above 60fps seem to be a stuttery and glitchy mess...

 

not saying this couldn't work in the future but it'll be an uphill battle and probably take decades (until then it'll probably be obsolete as well)

 

always same issue with different architectures, it's basically emulation and that usually never is ideal, unless it's actually older stuff that can be basically brute forced.

 

I mean personally I'm still waiting for that RISC/powerpc return  ~

[HorseBattery]

20 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

I mean personally I'm still waiting for that RISC/powerpc return

 

The R in ARM literally stands for RISC.

[Mark Kaine]

7 hours ago, HorseBattery said:

 

The R in ARM literally stands for RISC.

yeah? and? still not the same as risc-v/powerpc which is far more powerful (in theory) 

[Doobeedoo]

8 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

i mean i kinda doubt it, even older games that mostly run above 60fps seem to be a stuttery and glitchy mess...

 

not saying this couldn't work in the future but it'll be an uphill battle and probably take decades (until then it'll probably be obsolete as well)

 

always same issue with different architectures, it's basically emulation and that usually never is ideal, unless it's actually older stuff that can be basically brute forced.

 

I mean personally I'm still waiting for that RISC/powerpc return  ~

I've seen WoW run early on on Apple M chip, wasn't the best, though this chip should run it fairly better, reason why I wonder about it.

Since WoW works on Linux and Windows on ARM I'd expect a decent support and perf. Can see games here for WoA https://www.worksonwoa.com/

[HorseBattery]

12 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

still not the same as risc-v/powerpc which is far more powerful (in theory) 

 

I don't think cpu instruction set matters as much as you think when it comes to performance. Here is a video with Jim Keller himself explaining it way better than I can.

 

 

tldr 80% of compute is done with only a handful of common instructions, and branch/instruction prediction is far more important.

[Mark Kaine]

12 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

I've seen WoW run early on on Apple M chip, wasn't the best, though this chip should run it fairly better, reason why I wonder about it.

Since WoW works on Linux and Windows on ARM I'd expect a decent support and perf. Can see games here for WoA https://www.worksonwoa.com/

it probably runs a lot better on mac cause the translation layer is better, whatever Microsoft is doing seems half-baked, this isnt a question of power alone obviously, did you watch the video? there's no reason to believe wow would far any better (its also fairly demanding afaik)

 

 

1 hour ago, HorseBattery said:

 

I don't think cpu instruction set matters as much as you think when it comes to performance. Here is a video with Jim Keller himself explaining it way better than I can.

 

 

tldr 80% of compute is done with only a handful of common instructions, and branch/instruction prediction is far more important.

well i disagree,  see above, it doesn't really matter how powerful a chip is when the instruction sets or in this case translation layers suck... you're not gonna get any performance... also have to ask, did you watch the DDTS video? 

[Mark Kaine]

On 6/15/2024 at 3:44 AM, Shimejii said:

Its gonna be a pretty big let down Dont spend money on products to be a beta tester.

i think this will actually be decent for laptops, just not for gaming,  in the foreseeable future, if ever. i mean gaming is clearly not the target audience for this.

 

[Doobeedoo]

52 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

it probably runs a lot better on mac cause the translation layer is better, whatever Microsoft is doing seems half-baked, this isnt a question of power alone obviously, did you watch the video? there's no reason to believe wow would far any better (its also fairly demanding afaik)

It's running natively from what I've seen though. I'm sure someone will make a vid on WoA one on one of these laptops. Even in worst case it should run better. Yeah it can be quite demanding for sure in heavy situations.

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

It's running natively from what I've seen though. I'm sure someone will make a vid on WoA one on one of these laptops. Even in worst case it should run better. Yeah it can be quite demanding for sure in heavy situations.

yeah if its actually running natively (wasn't sure)... it's still a very niche case scenario.

 but most games obviously won't.