Hey Siri, I’m Giving You A Second Chance - Apple's WWDC 2024 Keynote

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While most of these updates and features for iPad OS 18, iOS 18, and MacOS Sequoia aren't exactly new, it was pretty cool seeing them at Apple's 2024 WWDC event. Is their version of AI or "Apple Intelligence" going to be the first one the average person uses on a daily basis? DoesT9 on iPhone matter to anyone but Linus? Will Tim Cook FINALLY find a way to sell more Vision Pros?

 

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[ToboRobot]

I wonder if we will ever be able to run Apples AI cloud locally on a Mac Mini or other macs in my network.

[05032-Mendicant-Bias]

Local model: check

Privacy focused: check

Open source: nope

 

Two out of three, if Apple Intelligence (DAMN that one marketing power move!) works as advertised, that's moving AI assistants in the right direction for the first time since the field became a thing. The Cloud is the dragon that must be slain.

[Blasty Blosty]

35 minutes ago, 05032-Mendicant-Bias said:

Open source: nope

Don't think apple would ever make it open source

[05032-Mendicant-Bias]

3 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Don't think apple would ever make it open source

You are correct, I would be very surprised if Apple releases their model.

Two considerations:

• The weights are on the local device, unless Apple is doing homomorphic cryptography, it should be possible to get the weights of Apple model and reverse engineer the architecture of the network to run them. You can't do that with a model that only exists in the cloud.
• Intel is releasing processors with a decently sized NPU. Microsoft might be more willing to open source the local model, or at least to allow fine tunes of the local model, e.g. to fine tune models for corporate fleets

I believe regulations should force all corporations to release training data and weights of their model open source, it's a matter of scrutiny since those models are increasingly the ones pushing the buttons.

 

I'm fine with corporations retaining the secret sauce to turn data into weights, they can even keep the annotated data, and can retain licenses for commercial use of their weights and derivative models. I think that's a fair balance between innovation, greed and safety for all involved.

[Blasty Blosty]

1 minute ago, 05032-Mendicant-Bias said:

You are correct, I would be very surprised if Apple releases their model.

Two considerations:

• The weights are on the local device, unless Apple is doing homomorphic cryptography, it should be possible to get the weights of Apple model and reverse engineer the architecture of the network to run them. You can't do that with a model that only exists in the cloud.
• Intel is releasing processors with a decently sized NPU. Microsoft might be more willing to open source the local model, or at least to allow fine tunes of the local model, e.g. to fine tune models for corporate fleets

I believe regulations should force all corporations to release training data and weights of their model open source, it's a matter of scrutiny since those models are increasingly the ones pushing the buttons.

 

I'm fine with corporations retaining the secret sauce to turn data into weights, they can even keep the annotated data, and can retain licenses for commercial use of their weights and derivative models. I think that's a fair balance between innovation, greed and safety for all involved.

Yeah I agree it would be nice for us all to see under the curtains a little bit to maybe put our own community spice in it, but it's unlikely it will ever be fully open due to Apple's main focus on privacy and security

[karrfis]

7 hours ago, 05032-Mendicant-Bias said:

 

Open source: nope

 

 

Bold of you to assume that current day apple know what the words "open source" mean, gotta keep the walled garden being walled

[YellowJersey]

Yeah, I don't trust apple anymore than I trust microsoft or google (ie, not at all).