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4 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

AutoHotKey

Probably the cause.

There's a mention of it in the Steam page: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4133808627030993013/

Before you ask: I do not have any cheat software installed on my computer and I am 100% against any form of cheating or hacking in games. 

**Read edit at the bottom of this post

 

So I downloaded The Finals for the first time, because I heard it was fun and wanted to try it. 

I got this message: 

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The message reads: 

 

Fatal Error
Cheat software was detected. This is a violation of our code of conduct, continued use will lead to account suspension or other action in accordance with our user terms.

 

These are my background apps in my tray: 

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The only things I could think of that would do this is RTSS, my AutoHotKey macros for my keyboard, or Overwolf, but I can't really disable any of those...

 

Does anyone else have these problems and is one of these apps known to cause this issue? 

 

Edit: closing AutoHotkey fixed the issue but this is really annoying because I have tons of macros for changing volume, opening apps, sleep mode, changing audio output, and changing monitor brightness. Is there any way to bypass this so I can still have my ahk script running but not trigger the anticheat? What's weird is that The Finals uses Easy Anti Cheat (as far as I know) which is also used in Fortnite and Apex Legends, which I have no problems with. 

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Just now, Tan3l6 said:

Probably the cause.

There's a mention of it in the Steam page: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4133808627030993013/

Read my edits, it was the cause

 

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15 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

Is there any way to bypass this so I can still have my ahk script running but not trigger the anticheat?

Maybe use another solution like a Stream Deck? I'd imagine there would be riots if a game developer decided those are cheat devices.

 

We can't help you sidestep anti-cheat here though.

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19 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

closing AutoHotkey fixed the issue but this is really annoying because I have tons of macros for changing volume, opening apps, sleep mode, changing audio output, and changing monitor brightness. Is there any way to bypass this so I can still have my ahk script running but not trigger the anticheat? What's weird is that The Finals uses Easy Anti Cheat (as far as I know) which is also used in Fortnite and Apex Legends, which I have no problems with. 

blame the anticheat developers that blacklisted the app

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12 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

Read my edits, it was the cause

Don't forget to mark Tan's comment as solution

 

As for how to minimize the impact this has, you can replace the launcher shortcut with a cmd file that kills AHK, launches the game (there is a way to launch a program and not continue until the program "finishes" which it will when you close the game), then launch AHK and exit

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11 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

Maybe use another solution like a Stream Deck? I'd imagine there would be riots if a game developer decided those are cheat devices.

 

We can't help you sidestep anti-cheat here though.

8 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

blame the anticheat developers that blacklisted the app

7 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Don't forget to mark Tan's comment as solution

 

As for how to minimize the impact this has, you can replace the launcher shortcut with a cmd file that kills AHK, launches the game (there is a way to launch a program and not continue until the program "finishes" which it will when you close the game), then launch AHK and exit

Yeah it's just kinda annoying that they would blacklist an app that isn't just for cheating. 

 

Another problem - my RTSS performance overlay isn't showing, any ideas??

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11 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Don't forget to mark Tan's comment as solution

 

As for how to minimize the impact this has, you can replace the launcher shortcut with a cmd file that kills AHK, launches the game (there is a way to launch a program and not continue until the program "finishes" which it will when you close the game), then launch AHK and exit

Can you share a file that would do this? The code for a script in a pastebin is good enough for me

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2 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

Yeah it's just kinda annoying that they would blacklist an app that isn't just for cheating. 

 

Another problem - my RTSS performance overlay isn't showing, any ideas??

what api is the game running on? if i remember correctly rtss only works for dx11/dx12 (?)

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5 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

Can you share a file that would do this? The code for a script in a pastebin is good enough for me

Not sure where you have AHK and TheFinals executables stored, but this should work

@echo off
taskkill /f /im autohotkey.exe

echo Launching The Finals...
"path\to\TheFinals.exe"

echo Waiting for The Finals to launch...
timeout /t 5

echo Launching AutoHotkey...
start "" "path\to\AutoHotkey.exe" 


 

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4 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

what api is the game running on? if i remember correctly rtss only works for dx11/dx12 (?)

I think it's DX12 but there is a steam launch parameter that puts it in dx11

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5 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Not sure where you have AHK and TheFinals executables stored, but this should work

@echo off
taskkill /f /im autohotkey.exe

echo Launching The Finals...
"path\to\TheFinals.exe"

echo Waiting for The Finals to launch...
timeout /t 5

echo Launching AutoHotkey...
start "" "path\to\AutoHotkey.exe" 


 

so would the AHK path be the path to my "macropad.ahk" file? 

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14 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Not sure where you have AHK and TheFinals executables stored, but this should work

@echo off
taskkill /f /im autohotkey.exe

echo Launching The Finals...
"path\to\TheFinals.exe"

echo Waiting for The Finals to launch...
timeout /t 5

echo Launching AutoHotkey...
start "" "path\to\AutoHotkey.exe" 


 

This is a dangerous solution that may cause OP to get banned. I doubt the anti-cheat only looks for suspected apps once at launch. If it detects it mid-game, bam, they're done. As far as I can tell, this code won't wait for the .exe to close, but instead only wait the 5 seconds.

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3 minutes ago, Kid.Lazer said:

This is a dangerous solution that may cause OP to get banned. I doubt the anti-cheat only looks for suspected apps once at launch. If it detects it mid-game, bam, they're done.

That's why I use just the raw file path for the game, the script will wait for the game to exit before continuing. Conversely, `start "" "path to exe"` will launch a program and continue

 

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5 minutes ago, Kid.Lazer said:

This is a dangerous solution that may cause OP to get banned. I doubt the anti-cheat only looks for suspected apps once at launch. If it detects it mid-game, bam, they're done. As far as I can tell, this code won't wait for the .exe to close, but instead only wait the 5 seconds.

 

2 minutes ago, OddOod said:

That's why I use just the raw file path for the game, the script will wait for the game to exit before continuing. Conversely, `start "" "path to exe"` will launch a program and continue

 

so it is or isn't safe?? I don't really need the macros in-game, if that helps

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11 minutes ago, PowerPCFan said:

so would the AHK path be the path to my "macropad.ahk" file? 

No, just whatever AHK version you run. For me it would be "C:\Program Files\AutoHotkey\v2\AutoHotkey64.exe"
Though I'm not that familiar with AHK so you might have to add another line that activates(?) the macropad? I'd play around with it using "notepad.exe" instead of The FInals path

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Just now, OddOod said:

No, just whatever AHK version you run. For me it would be "C:\Program Files\AutoHotkey\v2\AutoHotkey64.exe"
Though I'm not that familiar with AHK so you might have to add another line that activates(?) the macropad? I'd play around with it using "notepad.exe" instead of The FInals path

Well opening the EXE does nothing, you need to open the .ahk file which automatically runs via the AutoHotkey Launcher app. 

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Just now, PowerPCFan said:

don't really need the macros in-game

Good, because according to their TOS that would be cheating. 

 

 

1 minute ago, PowerPCFan said:

so it is or isn't safe?

It should be safe, but I 1000% recommend looking up each command (google is your friend, I like SS64 for CMD command reference) to be confident that I'm not trying to compromise your computer. And I 100% recommend doing some testing to make sure it works correctly

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1 minute ago, OddOod said:

Good, because according to their TOS that would be cheating. 

 

 

It should be safe, but I 1000% recommend looking up each command (google is your friend, I like SS64 for CMD command reference) to be confident that I'm not trying to compromise your computer. And I 100% recommend doing some testing to make sure it works correctly

Alright, thanks!!

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1 hour ago, OddOod said:

Not sure where you have AHK and TheFinals executables stored, but this should work

@echo off
taskkill /f /im autohotkey.exe

echo Launching The Finals...
"path\to\TheFinals.exe"

echo Waiting for The Finals to launch...
timeout /t 5

echo Launching AutoHotkey...
start "" "path\to\AutoHotkey.exe" 


 

I eventually decided on this, which kills AHK when I open The Finals:

 

@echo off
taskkill /f /im AutoHotkeyU64.exe

echo Launching The Finals...
"C:\Users\Charlie\Documents\THE FINALS.url"

 

And I put a shortcut to my AHK script on my desktop so when I close the game I can just run the shortcut. Not ideal but it works good for me. 

Edit: i don't have the game installed to my documents folder, that's just a shortcut 😄

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1 hour ago, PowerPCFan said:

Yeah it's just kinda annoying that they would blacklist an app that isn't just for cheating.

But totally sensible, as there is no way for them to tell if you are using it to cheat or not.

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35 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

But totally sensible, as there is no way for them to tell if you are using it to cheat or not.

True! 

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19 hours ago, BrandonLatzig said:

Edit: I am stupid, I apologize, please forgive

No, you were ignorant, which is vastly superior. Ignorance can be cured with an open mind which you clearly have. When you discover you're wrong, thank the corrector instead of asking for forgiveness, it will make both of you happier. 

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19 hours ago, PowerPCFan said:

I eventually decided on this

This is a really nice, safe middleground. And hey! you learned a bit of programming/automation, not a bad response to an error message

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