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Upgrade or start from scratch?

Budget : Current PC +~150eur

Country: Latvia

Gamesa and etc:  

CS2, GTAV (hopefully VI), NBA2K24, light video editing

Other details:

Current build -

Intel I3-10105f

Gigabyte H410M

Zotac GTX 1060 6GB

Crucial 32GB (@2666mhz, cause no XMP)

BE QUIET 400W

Crucial SSD 1TB

and a random HDD 1TB

4x Savio RGB fans

est price 350€-400€

 

Built the PC on my own on a budget and just kept upgrading or switching parts for better ones. After 2 years, the PC is still doing well, but not the same no more. I feel im in need of an upgrade and some advice. What should I upgrade first or do I start building from scratch? I understand that the upgrade path on my motherboard are almost none, cause of the socket etc. 
 

P.s Im gonna keep playing on max 1080p, 144hz cause of my monitor.
-LG UltraGear 24GN650-B 24”IPS

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLIES IN ADVANCE ❤️

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7 minutes ago, hevi said:

Budget : Current PC +~150eur

Country: Latvia

Gamesa and etc:  

CS2, GTAV (hopefully VI), NBA2K24, light video editing

Other details:

Current build -

Intel I3-10105f

Gigabyte H410M

Zotac GTX 1060 6GB

Crucial 32GB (@2666mhz, cause no XMP)

BE QUIET 400W

Crucial SSD 1TB

and a random HDD 1TB

4x Savio RGB fans

est price 350€-400€

 

Built the PC on my own on a budget and just kept upgrading or switching parts for better ones. After 2 years, the PC is still doing well, but not the same no more. I feel im in need of an upgrade and some advice. What should I upgrade first or do I start building from scratch? I understand that the upgrade path on my motherboard are almost none, cause of the socket etc. 
 

P.s Im gonna keep playing on max 1080p, 144hz cause of my monitor.
-LG UltraGear 24GN650-B 24”IPS

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLIES IN ADVANCE ❤️

How long would it take you to save and build a $800-$1000 PC?

 

May be better off selling the 10105 and getting a 10600/10700(k) as not sure  if 150 will even get you a used 6600.

 

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Scratch. There aren't really any good CPUs for the lga 1200 socket unless you are willing to pay more. Starting from scratch would be cheaper for the same performance compared to you upgrading. And you will need a new PSU for a newer video card in most cases. 

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you could just upgrade to a 12600kf but i dont know how much improvement youd get i would say save up....

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LRngyg

CPU: Intel Core i5-11600KF 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($171.06 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte H510M K V2 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($201.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 700 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $428.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

How long would it take you to save and build a $800-$1000 PC?

 

May be better off selling the 10105 and getting a 10600/10700(k) as not sure  if 150 will even get you a used 6600.

 

Well it would take like 6months at minimum, cause of irl stuff happening right now, but I get the point. It would be easier to start saving and build a new pc. Thanks!

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1 hour ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Scratch. There aren't really any good CPUs for the lga 1200 socket unless you are willing to pay more. Starting from scratch would be cheaper for the same performance compared to you upgrading. And you will need a new PSU for a newer video card in most cases. 

Yep. I agree on the socket and PSU part, cause its already kinda maxed for anything good. 
 

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Im seeing reaccuring 6600 recomendations. Is it really that good for the money?

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27 minutes ago, hevi said:

Im seeing reaccuring 6600 recomendations. Is it really that good for the money?

for under 200, yes, it is on par with or outperforms the 3060 wich is around 100 to 150 more dependiing on the varient

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4 hours ago, hevi said:

Yep. I agree on the socket and PSU part, cause its already kinda maxed for anything good. 
 

You don't need a new PSU for a 6600 at all.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

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Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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37 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You don't need a new PSU for a 6600 at all.

 

4 hours ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

for under 200, yes, it is on par with or outperforms the 3060 wich is around 100 to 150 more dependiing on the varient

Ok. Ill be looking into that! Thanks.

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37 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You don't need a new PSU for a 6600 at all.

Minimum 550 no?

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Found a couple of 6600XT’s for 160€, but also did find a pc where its paired with a R5 3600 and 16GB, following a 550W Coolermaster MWE. Kind of a cheapo PSU no? Any opinions? Price is 500€

 

*** also M.2 1TB, Darkflash cooler and Case

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try this

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kcfbz6

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900KF 3.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($237.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte H510M K V2 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 700 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $521.98
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2 hours ago, hevi said:

Minimum 550 no?

No.  I run a 6650XT and 5600X3D off a 450w PSU.  100% plenty of power, no issues.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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4 hours ago, Dedayog said:

No.  I run a 6650XT and 5600X3D off a 450w PSU.  100% plenty of power, no issues.

Really? I thought i needed more power for sure. Ill take that in to consideration.

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Little update in the situation… Been looking and found something interesting. 
 

I7 10700

B560M Pro

6600 8GB

16GB

no storage tho

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460€

 

Something that would make sense? Or the CPU upgrade is just not worth it, cause Ill still be stuck in the 1200 socket league

 

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Well, it won't be worth it if you want to upgrade again in the future. However, the 10700 is that bad of a CPU, and with the 6600 (maybe get the xt version) and the new Mobo (your current one isn't the best), It would be very capable of playing the games you want to play. 

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Not certain about the other games, but for CS2 you need to max out your CPU+RAM performance (apply XMP, highest speed with lowest latency).

 

What spec is your RAM? (i.e. if you get on a motherboard with support for XMP)

 

I assume you're looking 2nd hand market?

 

Two routes:

 

Option #1:

Straight swap CPU upgrade:

Options: you might get an i7 10700 or i7 11700 for €150 on the 2nd hand market, more likely i5 10600/11600.... definitely a lot of 11400F for around for €100 as they're stock office CPUs that are hitting the end of their office life now.

Pros: simple swap, cheap

Cons: very little upgrade path, still on a really restrictive H-series motherboard, so you will be restricting any CPU you put on that motherboard.

 

Option #2:

Re-platform to AM4:

B450 motherboards start around €75 new.

Ryzen 5 5600/5600X for €50/€60 2nd hand.

Re-use the RAM.

Pros: max out your RAM, strong upgrade path to 5800X3D later, well within budget.

Cons: more hassle, slightly more expensive.

 

Here's a comparison for where a 5600X would get you.... note that you will get the most out of 5600X on a B450 (with a stock cooler and your current hardware).... and this is competing against an i5 11600K with optimal high spec: Z590, CL14 DDR 3200MT/sec and AIO cooler...

 

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Here's the full review from Hardware Unboxed (note that is is over 3 years ago, so price commentary is WAY off!):

 

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