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HELP PLEASE! (Building a gaming rig for my little brother for his birthday)

Budget (including currency): $1200

Country: America 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Fortnite and Minecraft 

Other details My little brother loves to play Fortnite and has been asking for a pc that could get him 240fps on low settings in Fortnite? Any way you could help me build one with less than 1200? 

 

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6 minutes ago, JuJu12227 said:

Budget (including currency): $1200

Country: America 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Fortnite and Minecraft 

Other details My little brother loves to play Fortnite and has been asking for a pc that could get him 240fps on low settings in Fortnite? Any way you could help me build one with less than 1200? 

 

This should be able to do 240fps on high

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($106.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: 7500F ($155.00)
Total: $1226.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-05 06:25 EST-0500

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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5 minutes ago, filpo said:

This should be able to do 240fps on high

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($106.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: 7500F ($155.00)
Total: $1226.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-05 06:25 EST-0500

is there a potential different cpu that can be used on this build?

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Just now, JuJu12227 said:

is there a potential different cpu that can be used on this build?

There's the 7600x but then you'll have to drop down to 1tb of storage and it's also harder to cool without having any increase in performance

I'd say just get the 7500F. It's a great deal. it's an am5 cpu 

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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7 minutes ago, filpo said:

There's the 7600x but then you'll have to drop down to 1tb of storage and it's also harder to cool without having any increase in performance

I'd say just get the 7500F. It's a great deal. it's an am5 cpu 

on pc part picker it gives me a warning when adding the 7500F should i be worried about that or is it a false flag?

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Just now, JuJu12227 said:

on pc part picker it gives me a warning when adding the 7500F should i be worried about that or is it a false flag?

what does it say? if it's a bios issue then ignore it since the b650 gaming plus wifi has got bios flashback and it should work out of the box anyway 

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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Probably around this build. You can lower the gpu to get a better cpu as it's better for FPS games. However, know that 7600x is almost similar to 7700x, so if you are going to upgrade to a higher AM5 CPU, the only thing that would improve performance that's worth the price increase is the 7800x3d. Also you can just get him 1tb of ssd to start with, you or him can get another 2tb in a few months once he has more apps to install. For a budget build, unless you really want to, don't speed more than $80-100  on your case. You can change the PSU too. But don't cheapen out on it too much, as it's one of the only components that can be be move to the next upgrade.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.46 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea A440 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  ($549.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 850 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1200.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-05 06:36 EST-0500

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27 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

Probably around this build. You can lower the gpu to get a better cpu as it's better for FPS games. However, know that 7600x is almost similar to 7700x, so if you are going to upgrade to a higher AM5 CPU, the only thing that would improve performance that's worth the price increase is the 7800x3d. Also you can just get him 1tb of ssd to start with, you or him can get another 2tb in a few months once he has more apps to install. For a budget build, unless you really want to, don't speed more than $80-100  on your case. You can change the PSU too. But don't cheapen out on it too much, as it's one of the only components that can be be move to the next upgrade.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.46 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea A440 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  ($549.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 850 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1200.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-05 06:36 EST-0500

if i decide to make the upgrade to the cpu (7800x3d) is there any other cases you would recommend? 

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28 minutes ago, JuJu12227 said:

if i decide to make the upgrade to the cpu (7800x3d) is there any other cases you would recommend? 

There’s a couple good cases, here’s a good article depending on what you want specifically:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-pc-cases,4183.html

 

though for a cpu upgrade, it’s not necessary.

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3 hours ago, JuJu12227 said:

on pc part picker it gives me a warning when adding the 7500F should i be worried about that or is it a false flag?

Ignore that "error" - it's a false alert as PCPartPicker just hasn't updated their databases to include it, so they don't recognise the properties CPU name - the DB needs an entry for each component and list of all the requirements / dependencies / constraints to do the compatibility check.

 

Partpicker's DB doesn't "think", if it did, could read "7500F" and realise that it's a 7000-series CPU and should be compatible with all AM5 motherboards. 

 

The 7500F isn't being advertised widely, but it is an AWESOME gaming CPU for getting yourself onto the AM5 platform and it is only 2-5% slower than the 7600X - it's not like the gimped/budget CPUs from the 5000 series (e.g. R7 5700 compared to the R7 5700X, where they halved the cache!)... the R5 7500F has the same cores, same threads and same cache and only ~5% slower peak CPU speed.

 

With the cache being the biggest part of the CPU for gaming, it performs within 5% of the 7600X in all games, but can save you 25% (~$50) on your CPU budget! 

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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5 hours ago, filpo said:

what does it say? if it's a bios issue then ignore it since the b650 gaming plus wifi has got bios flashback and it should work out of the box anyway 

This is the build you recommended without the 7500F because i couldn’t find one on amazon. Any recommended tweaks or changes?IMG_0501.thumb.jpeg.ba8beb6191e4b28f27d145bd67b08875.jpeg

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Just now, JuJu12227 said:

This is the build you recommended without the 7500F because i couldn’t find one on amazon. Any recommended tweaks or changes?IMG_0501.thumb.jpeg.ba8beb6191e4b28f27d145bd67b08875.jpeg

That 7800 XT is a scam, a 7800 XT for $360 is too good to be true when it normally retails for $490

Also it's sold by this company which has no feedback and it's delivery is 7-21 days

Another one of out members just bought a 7900 XT off of this seller for $520 when it normally retails for $700. Me thinks it's a scam. But if you talk to amazon customer support and ask them if the return is covered, if it is then you can go for it (just like in the post at bottom)

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Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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9 minutes ago, filpo said:

That 7800 XT is a scam, a 7800 XT for $360 is too good to be true when it normally retails for $490

Also it's sold by this company which has no feedback and it's delivery is 7-21 days

Another one of out members just bought a 7900 XT off of this seller for $520 when it normally retails for $700. Me thinks it's a scam. But if you talk to amazon customer support and ask them if the return is covered, if it is then you can go for it (just like in the post at bottom)

image.thumb.png.a33514bda500d57127fb9742768b86b0.pngIf the graphics card doesn’t show up what is a decent replacement on amazon?

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2 minutes ago, JuJu12227 said:

If the graphics card doesn’t show up what is a decent replacement on amazon?

I'd say you can get it but talk to amazon customer support and ask them if the return is covered, if it is then you can go for it 

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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8 minutes ago, filpo said:

I'd say you can get it but talk to amazon customer support and ask them if the return is covered, if it is then you can go for it 

Under the product listing, in the returns section it says it is eligible for return refund or replacement, does that count as covered?IMG_0502.thumb.jpeg.d1d69f20d31c5a3e60b40577297108d5.jpeg

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5 minutes ago, JuJu12227 said:

Under the product listing, in the returns section it says it is eligible for return refund or replacement, does that count as covered?IMG_0502.thumb.jpeg.d1d69f20d31c5a3e60b40577297108d5.jpeg

Should be but contact amazon customer support just to be sure

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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5 minutes ago, filpo said:

Should be but contact amazon customer support just to be sure

will do, thank you for the advice and help! 

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6 hours ago, JuJu12227 said:

is there a potential different cpu that can be used on this build?

fortnite and mc are alot more cpu based than gpu based, i personally never even new the 7500f existed but flipo is a very experrienced pc builder and ultimately he knows best (i am not glazing shut up)

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1 minute ago, kuzsuu said:

fortnite and mc are alot more cpu based than gpu based, i personally never even new the 7500f existed but flipo is a very experrienced pc builder and ultimately he knows best (i am not glazing shut up)

justified glaze tbh 

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1 minute ago, JuJu12227 said:

justified glaze tbh 

now your glazing me L glazer

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($160.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *ADATA Legend 800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($108.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Sapphire 21330-01-20G Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.90 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1151.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-05 13:30 EST-0500

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i just bought one too, waiting for it

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14 hours ago, JuJu12227 said:

will do, thank you for the advice and help! 

omg lol i did some research on the address, in the same area, the address of the gpu seller is B right? but in the same address, C building is sell fake cigarettes. found it in the chinese news,

 

summarized it for you guys: The Hainan Provincial Public Security Department conducted a successful anti-counterfeiting operation in 2019, resulting in the crackdown on 54 retailers selling counterfeit cigarettes. This operation involved multiple law enforcement agencies and led to the dismantling of criminal groups, seizure of over 6 million counterfeit cigarettes, and the arrest of 97 suspects. Notably, this effort marked the first joint action with the tobacco authority and crackdown on logistics companies involved in smuggling. The department vows to continue its crackdown on counterfeit activities to uphold public safety and combat counterfeit trade.

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3 hours ago, Newhites said:

omg lol i did some research on the address, in the same area, the address of the gpu seller is B right? but in the same address, C building is sell fake cigarettes. found it in the chinese news,

 

summarized it for you guys: The Hainan Provincial Public Security Department conducted a successful anti-counterfeiting operation in 2019, resulting in the crackdown on 54 retailers selling counterfeit cigarettes. This operation involved multiple law enforcement agencies and led to the dismantling of criminal groups, seizure of over 6 million counterfeit cigarettes, and the arrest of 97 suspects. Notably, this effort marked the first joint action with the tobacco authority and crackdown on logistics companies involved in smuggling. The department vows to continue its crackdown on counterfeit activities to uphold public safety and combat counterfeit trade.

return it

 

17 hours ago, kuzsuu said:

mc are alot more cpu based than gpu based

depends if there's shaders or mods involved. Mods would be more like additions to the game, more CPU intensive and shaders would be more GPU intensive  

 

17 hours ago, kuzsuu said:

i personally never even new the 7500f existed

it's not around big market shops but a lot have been sold on alixexpress for a good price and I haven't seen anything bad about the listing

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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3 hours ago, filpo said:

return it

 

depends if there's shaders or mods involved. Mods would be more like additions to the game, more CPU intensive and shaders would be more GPU intensive  

 

it's not around big market shops but a lot have been sold on alixexpress for a good price and I haven't seen anything bad about the listing

imma give it a shot and get back to you guys, i am protected by amazon and if not chase. 

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