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AMD 3600 and RTX 2080ti Desktop build

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, mostly older titles (Paradox Interactive games especially)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): The GPU is used but still has the factory overclock.  I have a peripherals already from using a laptop before (including a monitor that I'll use); the monitor is a 3440x1440 4k samsung curved display that is also used and owned already, given to me by a family member, same as the GPU and the 2 2TB external drives were used with my old laptop and also contain its backed up files.  The SSD will be the boot drive. It will also use the cooler that AMD includes with the CPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7LKRK 

Are there any changes that I should make to the parts list?

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, EpicTurtle640 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, mostly older titles (Paradox Interactive games especially)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): The GPU is used but still has the factory overclock.  I have a peripherals already from using a laptop before (including a monitor that I'll use); the monitor is a 3440x1440 4k samsung curved display that is also used and owned already, given to me by a family member, same as the GPU and the 2 2TB external drives were used with my old laptop and also contain its backed up files.  The SSD will be the boot drive. It will also use the cooler that AMD includes with the CPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7LKRK 

Are there any changes that I should make to the parts list?

 

 

 

Sorry you haven't gotten a reply yet. Can you leave a list of the parts you are looking exactly to upgrade? 

For instance I saw the 2080ti and ryzen 3600.

If you can buy the 2080ti used that would be good but if you are looking for new GPU then in a $1000 budget I would aim for a $500ish dollar graphics card. Used this could be a 3080 and new could be a 7700xt/7800xt/(maybe)6900xt or 4060ti or 4070. 

For the CPU getting a 5600/X could be beneficial if you want to maintain platform. If you want to get a motherboard too then a 12400f is a good choice

Case is really up to how much you're willing to spend on aesthetics/fans. 

I'm not familiar with the games but because they are older titles many may not be optimized or work with the resolution so I'm sure setting games to Windowed or certain resolutions will help them be smoother. 

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1 hour ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

Sorry you haven't gotten a reply yet. Can you leave a list of the parts you are looking exactly to upgrade? 

For instance I saw the 2080ti and ryzen 3600.

If you can buy the 2080ti used that would be good but if you are looking for new GPU then in a $1000 budget I would aim for a $500ish dollar graphics card. Used this could be a 3080 and new could be a 7700xt/7800xt/(maybe)6900xt or 4060ti or 4070. 

For the CPU getting a 5600/X could be beneficial if you want to maintain platform. If you want to get a motherboard too then a 12400f is a good choice

Case is really up to how much you're willing to spend on aesthetics/fans. 

I'm not familiar with the games but because they are older titles many may not be optimized or work with the resolution so I'm sure setting games to Windowed or certain resolutions will help them be smoother. 

There should be a pc part picker list in the second to last line that has the part list.  I already have the 2080ti.

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It might be worth breaking this down into two lists:

1) which parts you have already

2) which parts you are going to buy (and the total budget available for these parts)

It makes it a lot easier to make useful recommendations - otherwise there is a risk of making a "saving" by removing a part you already have. 

 

From the list above, you're just asking for recommendations on memory + case + PSU or is the CPU also still not 100% decided?

 

For gaming it would be a huge boost to step up to a R5 5600 over a R5 3600 as you will get a 20% boost from the cache alone, let alone the IPC and clock speed improvements... so we'll be looking for savings elsewhere to try to get you to that CPU!

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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...one observation - unless you need those caddies to be portable, it is probably worth taking at least one of the drives out and running them in the case - more tidy and faster (that's what I did for my 2x 8Tb WD Red drives).

 

That would give you 2x 2Tb inside the case for data / extended games library / stream recording.... and saves >$70 on the 4Tb SATA drive....

 

Then use that money for the step up to a 5000-series (5600 or 5600X) and also to to 3600MT/sec RAM (keeping it at CL16).

 

Either way, I'd urge you to try for memory at that spec as a later upgrade to a 5000-series CPU will benefit from the memory at 3600MT/sec. 

 

For example: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qL7qgB  

(I went with the 5600X as it was still within budget, the 5600 is VERY similar in performance. Avoid the 5600G)

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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The included cooler is fine to get started, but perhaps in the next few months, look out for a decent budget tower cooler... e.g. the Dark Rock PX-4 (not the one from "be quiet!", but a v similar name!).... it's $20 and will allow some silly boost speeds with PBO enabled!

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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5 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

It might be worth breaking this down into two lists:

1) which parts you have already

2) which parts you are going to buy (and the total budget available for these parts)

It makes it a lot easier to make useful recommendations - otherwise there is a risk of making a "saving" by removing a part you already have. 

 

From the list above, you're just asking for recommendations on memory + case + PSU or is the CPU also still not 100% decided?

 

For gaming it would be a huge boost to step up to a R5 5600 over a R5 3600 as you will get a 20% boost from the cache alone, let alone the IPC and clock speed improvements... so we'll be looking for savings elsewhere to try to get you to that CPU!

I have the 2 external drives and the RTX 2080ti.  I also have a microcenter nearby (its still 2 hours away but same county).  

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If you want you can save a couple dolors on a power supply from Enermax, EVGA, or Cooler Master. 

 

Then you can save some money on a different B550 motherboard. 

 

Also look for memory as I believe someone said above at 3600mhz. A CL 18 or 16 kit. 

 

Aesthetics or brand preference will always be something you pay extra for... Maybe even a lot. 

 

I will link a few parts below:

Kingston Fury 16GB

This is a single stick so be sure to get another two

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097RGK8TM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

 

Deepcool 850G Power Supply

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H4MMnQ/deepcool-px850g-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-r-px850g-fc0b-us

 

Gigabyte B550 Motherboard

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vb3mP6/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550aorus-elite-axv2

 

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15 hours ago, EpicTurtle640 said:

I have the 2 external drives and the RTX 2080ti.  I also have a microcenter nearby (its still 2 hours away but same county).  

Okay... I think g we can go back to the drawing board a little more as you're almost starting from scratch (but with an aging, but pretty decent GPU).

I've taken your build (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7LKRK) and then deleted what you have already, since I can't change it, which gives me this $816 set of parts to play with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRZCkJ


I love AM4, but let's plan for the future at least a little, so my main target is to get you away from an AM4 board, if I can.... and best way to start is to with some ideas to save the money you're throwing away with 2x 4Tb drives AND 2x 2Tb caddies (do you really need that much space?).

I would start with cannibalising the caddies for the 2x 2Tb SATA drives and put them inside the case (possibly striped, if you're wanting the spindle drives for games / recording and then keep data backups on the cloud?).

 

This gives me this as a solid starting point:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FhR9pB
Ryzen 5 7600X
B650 motherboard with SOLID VRMs (will handle a 7950X!)

32Gb 6000MT/sec CL30 DDR5

PSU, case, etc are the same as before, minus the 2x 4Tb drives....

 

You will still need a cooler, but the Dark Rock PX4 @ <$20 and it is MORE than capable! (see the JayzTwoCents review with it handling something like a 250W 13900K!)

$725 total.... 

If you really need more than 4.5Tb in your PC, then a 4Tb WD Blue is $65: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mznh89 + Dark Rock PX4 @ <$20 = $790 for the option with 8.5Tb storage.

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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If you're worried about what is on those caddies.... build the 2nd option (with the one 4Tb WD Blue drive).... then BEFORE you fill the 4Tb SATA drive up with games (it will NOT be for games at all!), copy all the contents of the 2x caddies onto the 4Tb drive, check that it's all there.... then cannibalise them: put the 2x2Tb caddy drives inside the PC case and RAID0 (stripe) them... note that RAID0 is NOT as safe as a single drive if either drive fails or the RAID volume becomes corrupted the data will be lost, but the 2 drives will then appear as a 4Tb drive. The reasoning that RAID0 is FAST, it will give you nearly double the throughput of any single SATA drive: keep your easily replaceable data on there (games libraries or transient stream recordings), just in case the RAID stripe fails.

 

You will be STARTING this build $25 under the target budget with 4Tb more than you have right now, so unlikely you'll need more before you can find another $65 for another 4Tb WD Blue.

 

I could find alternatives for the Case + PSU to save you the $40 that would get to 2x 4Tb WD Blues, but I quite the look of that case and I assume you do too 🙂 

EDIT: TBH - you could probably save the extra $40 (or more!) if you can get a Ryzen 5 7500F instead of the 7600X, but they still seem pretty scarce.

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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On 3/4/2024 at 2:03 PM, BahnStormer said:

If you're worried about what is on those caddies.... build the 2nd option (with the one 4Tb WD Blue drive).... then BEFORE you fill the 4Tb SATA drive up with games (it will NOT be for games at all!), copy all the contents of the 2x caddies onto the 4Tb drive, check that it's all there.... then cannibalise them: put the 2x2Tb caddy drives inside the PC case and RAID0 (stripe) them... note that RAID0 is NOT as safe as a single drive if either drive fails or the RAID volume becomes corrupted the data will be lost, but the 2 drives will then appear as a 4Tb drive. The reasoning that RAID0 is FAST, it will give you nearly double the throughput of any single SATA drive: keep your easily replaceable data on there (games libraries or transient stream recordings), just in case the RAID stripe fails.

 

You will be STARTING this build $25 under the target budget with 4Tb more than you have right now, so unlikely you'll need more before you can find another $65 for another 4Tb WD Blue.

 

I could find alternatives for the Case + PSU to save you the $40 that would get to 2x 4Tb WD Blues, but I quite the look of that case and I assume you do too 🙂 

EDIT: TBH - you could probably save the extra $40 (or more!) if you can get a Ryzen 5 7500F instead of the 7600X, but they still seem pretty scarce.

The WD_BLACK is meant for my pc's actually storage while the WD blue is going to be used to backup the external hard drives because, last time i checked crystal disk info, they each had over 15k hours of runtime due to being the primary storage for my old laptop whose internal drive was extremely slow at doing anything... 1 hour for downloading 1GB.

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