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I’ve been looking for a good processor for a 4070 but most of em just bottleneck at like 11% but I’m not good in tech stuff so I’m asking here 

 

so im currently running on a b550-prime motherboard, nvidia 2070 rtx, and a ryzen 5 3600, but im trying to get the best i can for my budget lets say around 2k i was looking into a 4070 but dont know what processor to use or if my motherboard takes the upgrade.

The Monitor i have is a 2560x1080 and i would like to be able to run multiple monitors

Games i play? Sea Of Thieves Apex Legends and survival games

 

 

 

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Just now, DylPickleCan said:

I’ve been looking for a good processor for a 4070 but most of em just bottleneck at like 11% but I’m not good in tech stuff so I’m asking here 

 

Don’t use a bottleneck calculator. It ranges widely from the games your playing and even the silicon lottery so don’t use them at all. What resolution are you playing at? And games? If it’s 1080p I’d say an AM5 7500f or 7600/x will do nicely. If it’s 1440p even a 5700x or 5600 will do

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Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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Fyi bottleneck calcultors are BULLSHIT they are made to make you spend money thats all.

 

Are you making a whole new complete system?

 

If so I recommend you make a full post on the build planning topic to get help with a complete pc that is great for your budget

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10 minutes ago, filpo said:

Don’t use a bottleneck calculator. It ranges widely from the games your playing and even the silicon lottery so don’t use them at all.

9 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Fyi bottleneck calcultors are BULLSHIT

This

 

9 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Are you making a whole new complete system? If so I recommend you make a full post on the build planning topic to get help with a complete pc that is great for your budget

10 minutes ago, filpo said:

(include) what resolution are you playing at? And games?

and this (also include yout budget and country so we can better source parts)

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19 minutes ago, filpo said:

Don’t use a bottleneck calculator. It ranges widely from the games your playing and even the silicon lottery so don’t use them at all. What resolution are you playing at? And games? If it’s 1080p I’d say an AM5 7500f or 7600/x will do nicely. If it’s 1440p even a 5700x or 5600 will do

What about a Ryzen 9 7950X3D

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5 minutes ago, DylPickleCan said:

What about a Ryzen 9 7950X3D

No, if you want an X3D, get a 7800X3D.

 

The 7950X3D is a weird hybrid that makes no sense for either gaming or productivity. For productivity, you want the extra cores, but you don't want an X3D (the extra cache has no benefit here and the higher heat and lower clocks are detrimental). For gaming you want an X3D, but you don't want a CPU that has more than one CCD, like the 7950 has (because it adds latency).

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25 minutes ago, DylPickleCan said:

I’ve been looking for a good processor for a 4070 but most of em just bottleneck at like 11%

do you know what a bottleneck is becuase you don;'t determine bottlenecks on a theoretical basis.

with zero load and zero use case your machine doesn't have a bottleneck.

would be like trying to figure out if your vehicle is too slow...... without saying what vehicle it is , or what size it is , or what it's doing....

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so im currently running on a b550-prime motherboard, nvidia 2070 rtx, and a ryzen 5 3600, but im trying to get the best i can for my budget lets say around 2k i was looking into a 4070 but dont know what processor to use or if my motherboard takes the upgrade.

The Monitor i have is a 2560x1080 and i would like to be able to run multiple monitors

Games i play? Sea Of Thieves Apex Legends and survival games

 

 

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45 minutes ago, DylPickleCan said:

so im currently running on a b550-prime motherboard, nvidia 2070 rtx, and a ryzen 5 3600, but im trying to get the best i can for my budget lets say around 2k i was looking into a 4070 but dont know what processor to use or if my motherboard takes the upgrade.

I'd say you can get AM5 but if you wanna stay on am4 with your current ram get a better B550 and a 5700X3D

How much ram do you have and what's your budget?

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CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

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SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

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PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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20 minutes ago, DylPickleCan said:

so im currently running on a b550-prime motherboard

Which ASUS prime B550 motherboard exactly? (there's only 10)

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28 minutes ago, DylPickleCan said:

around 2k

2k us? if you've bought the 4070 already go for this

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($364.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
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Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($364.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.97 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1765.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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Technically speaking, r5 3600 would really bottleneck, as you are looking at 4070 class card and still want to keep your 1080p monitor. If you have a 2k budget. I would probably upgrade along these lines. Since you like multiple monitors to begin with. Get a new main monitor, like a 1440p(if you like fps games more) or 4k resolution. If you are just gaming and some minor office work, you don't need Ryzen 9 or intel I9s. Ryzen 5 7600, ryzen 5700x to 7700 and the x3d variants,  i5 13600k to i7 14700k, would be more than enough.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($241.00 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1029.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Dell G3223D 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1720.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1 hour ago, DylPickleCan said:

I’ve been looking for a good processor for a 4070 but most of em just bottleneck at like 11% but I’m not good in tech stuff so I’m asking here 

 

so im currently running on a b550-prime motherboard, nvidia 2070 rtx, and a ryzen 5 3600, but im trying to get the best i can for my budget lets say around 2k i was looking into a 4070 but dont know what processor to use or if my motherboard takes the upgrade.

The Monitor i have is a 2560x1080 and i would like to be able to run multiple monitors

Games i play? Sea Of Thieves Apex Legends and survival games

 

 

 

On bottlenecks and bottleneck calculators:

 

For a 4070 Super, I would recommend a Ryzen 7 5700X3D or 5800X3D, you can use your existing platform (mobo, RAM).

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1 hour ago, DylPickleCan said:

edited the post 

 

Just get a 5700x3d and a 7900xt(x) you dont need to do much to get a top end gaming rig here

 

Whatbpsu do you have right now?

 

Also full spec list please.

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