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Looking for upgrade recommendations

Budget (including currency): ~3000-4000 EUR, could go higher if the benefit is worth it.

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Stellaris, Elden Ring, Rocket League, Beat Saber, and a lot more. Software/Game development.

Other details: Existing part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9qHKX 

Peripherals not in PCPartPicker:
- Elgato HD60X capture card
- Valve Index
- Huion Kamvas 13
- USB Headset, Controller, Keyboard and Mouse
- 2 External drives
 

I'm mainly looking to upgrade because it seems my GPU can't keep up with 4k games at 60fps. Aside from the aggressive flickering and low fps, I often have to resort to using gamescope to run the games at 1080 and use FSR to upscale to 4k. On top of that, Gamescope doesn't seem to work nicely with X11, mostly leaving games as a blank screen. On Wayland however, I often get my power cutting out, which I'm assuming is too much load on my PC, likely caused by the peripherals adding too much load to the PSU (not 100% sure, I'm not at all an expert on this matter). And even at 1080p some games still struggle to reach 60fps unless I disable most of the visual effects.
However, the isues are not exclusive to linux either. Even on Windows, I often find VR games to be stuttering quite a lot, which isn't helped by the fact that I have to downscale the resolution per eye to get a decent framerate.

I'm assuming the main upgrades are going to be PSU and GPU, and I have no real preferences for GPU brand. I don't use any NVIDIA-only features like CUDA, and my monitors should support FreeSync as well. If other upgrades are recommended/necessary, please don't hesitate just because I assumed wrongly :)

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4 minutes ago, Martmists said:

Games: Stellaris, Elden Ring, Rocket League, Beat Saber, and a lot more. Software/Game development.

i'd say a 4080 super would be a good fit here. MAYBE a new AIO if you want it, an arctic LF3 360 and then a new case to house it

try this

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.98 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1122.95 @ Megekko) 
Case: Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  (€102.95 @ Azerty) 
Total: €1302.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-01 15:20 CET+0100

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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7 minutes ago, Martmists said:

Budget (including currency): ~3000-4000 EUR, could go higher if the benefit is worth it.

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Stellaris, Elden Ring, Rocket League, Beat Saber, and a lot more. Software/Game development.

Other details: Existing part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9qHKX 

Peripherals not in PCPartPicker:
- Elgato HD60X capture card
- Valve Index
- Huion Kamvas 13
- USB Headset, Controller, Keyboard and Mouse
- 2 External drives
 

I'm mainly looking to upgrade because it seems my GPU can't keep up with 4k games at 60fps. Aside from the aggressive flickering and low fps, I often have to resort to using gamescope to run the games at 1080 and use FSR to upscale to 4k. On top of that, Gamescope doesn't seem to work nicely with X11, mostly leaving games as a blank screen. On Wayland however, I often get my power cutting out, which I'm assuming is too much load on my PC, likely caused by the peripherals adding too much load to the PSU (not 100% sure, I'm not at all an expert on this matter). And even at 1080p some games still struggle to reach 60fps unless I disable most of the visual effects.
However, the isues are not exclusive to linux either. Even on Windows, I often find VR games to be stuttering quite a lot, which isn't helped by the fact that I have to downscale the resolution per eye to get a decent framerate.

I'm assuming the main upgrades are going to be PSU and GPU, and I have no real preferences for GPU brand. I don't use any NVIDIA-only features like CUDA, and my monitors should support FreeSync as well. If other upgrades are recommended/necessary, please don't hesitate just because I assumed wrongly 🙂

Why do you have a 4k budget for a simple GPU (maybe PSU) upgrade?

 

Get a 7900XTX or a 4080 Super and done.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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15 minutes ago, Martmists said:

Budget (including currency): ~3000-4000 EUR, could go higher if the benefit is worth it.

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Stellaris, Elden Ring, Rocket League, Beat Saber, and a lot more. Software/Game development.

Other details: Existing part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9qHKX 

Peripherals not in PCPartPicker:
- Elgato HD60X capture card
- Valve Index
- Huion Kamvas 13
- USB Headset, Controller, Keyboard and Mouse
- 2 External drives
 

I'm mainly looking to upgrade because it seems my GPU can't keep up with 4k games at 60fps. Aside from the aggressive flickering and low fps, I often have to resort to using gamescope to run the games at 1080 and use FSR to upscale to 4k. On top of that, Gamescope doesn't seem to work nicely with X11, mostly leaving games as a blank screen. On Wayland however, I often get my power cutting out, which I'm assuming is too much load on my PC, likely caused by the peripherals adding too much load to the PSU (not 100% sure, I'm not at all an expert on this matter). And even at 1080p some games still struggle to reach 60fps unless I disable most of the visual effects.
However, the isues are not exclusive to linux either. Even on Windows, I often find VR games to be stuttering quite a lot, which isn't helped by the fact that I have to downscale the resolution per eye to get a decent framerate.

I'm assuming the main upgrades are going to be PSU and GPU, and I have no real preferences for GPU brand. I don't use any NVIDIA-only features like CUDA, and my monitors should support FreeSync as well. If other upgrades are recommended/necessary, please don't hesitate just because I assumed wrongly 🙂

Swap 7900XT for 7800X3D (400EUR) or 7950X3D (600EUR)

Swap the 3060 (which looks totally puny in your hi end rig..) for a 1200EUR ish 4080 Super

You're good then 🙂, the 750W PSU will be good enough, if you really want more powaa get a Corsair RM1000e  (165 EUR)

 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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13 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Swap 7900XT for 7800X3D (400EUR) or 7950X3D (600EUR)

Swap the 3060 (which looks totally puny in your hi end rig..) for a 1200EUR ish 4080 Super

You're good then 🙂, the 750W PSU will be good enough, if you really want more powaa get a Corsair RM1000e  (165 EUR)

 

7800X3D really going to be worth it at 4K though?  marginally, maybe?

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

7800X3D really going to be worth it at 4K though?  marginally, maybe?

Sure it may not make a significant difference except in some games or if playing at lower settings

But seems OP want a Godzilla build, so let's do that 🙂

 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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Took some notes and decided to give the 4080 Super a try, though if it doesn't play well with the linux drivers I might return it and swap it for a 7900XTX and just give up on using CUDA. 
I also think the random shutdowns *might* be related to DOCP being enabled rather than insufficient power/cuts/surges on the PSU, though I don't have any real evidence for that other than it only rarely happening with DOCP enabled (in DOCP-I, -II and -tweaked modes), nothing's showing in the kernel logs though.

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Unfortunately it seems the latest Nvidia driver for Linux is broken (as expected). SDDM just flickers and there doesn't seem to be anything after managing to log in (video: https://streamable.com/0k5pl2). AMD it is I guess.

EDIT: While waiting I decided to benchmark the GPU while I'm at it, and it seems to struggle at around 100fps at 4k on many games, including various unigine benchmarks. Is this expected, and will a 7900XTX perform better?

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