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Difference between 5700X3D and 5800X?

Budget (including currency): Enough for either CPU

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440P gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 3070TI. 1440P 170hz monitors 

 

Trying to decide if it's worth getting a 5700X3D or a 5800X. From what I've seen online, the 5800X performs better(?) yet costs less. Is this the case or am I misunderstanding something? 

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33 minutes ago, Eurimeee said:

Budget (including currency): Enough for either CPU

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440P gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 3070TI. 1440P 170hz monitors 

 

Trying to decide if it's worth getting a 5700X3D or a 5800X. From what I've seen online, the 5800X performs better(?) yet costs less. Is this the case or am I misunderstanding something? 

 

The 5800X3D performs better than the 5700X3D in games. Don't confuse a 5800X3D and a 5800X, they are not the same.

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3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

 

The 5800X3D performs better than the 5700X3D in games. Don't confuse a 5800X3D and a 5800X, they are not the same.

Correct, I was recommended either the 5700X3D and 5800X for a build upgrade so I was trying to figure out which would be the right move! 

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4 minutes ago, Eurimeee said:

Correct, I was recommended either the 5700X3D and 5800X for a build upgrade so I was trying to figure out which would be the right move! 

The 5800X is a non-3D chip, the 5700X3D has 3D Vcache on the processor which really helps boost performance in games. The 5800X does have a higher clock speed so in some scenarios, most likely multithreaded like Cinebench or rendering, the 5800X will come ahead, although just slightly. For gaming, the X3D chip is far superior and will last you for a while longer than the 5800X.

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3 hours ago, Eurimeee said:

Correct, I was recommended either the 5700X3D and 5800X for a build upgrade so I was trying to figure out which would be the right move! 

Which CPU do you have now?

 

If you're not going to upgrade the 3070Ti till you upgrade the whole platform/PC, then get a 5700X and call it a day. It's enough for a 3070Ti on 1440p.

 

If you're highly competitive or if you plan on upgrading the GPU without changing the platform, then get an X3D, either the 5700X3D or 5800X3D.

 

The non-x3d chips are a bit better for work (rendering, compression/decompression, encoding/transcoding, video editing, ...), but they are much worse for many games.

 

If you're on a 3700X or 3800X, the upgrade to a 5700X makes no sense on 1440p.

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  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
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