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2 RAM Sticks @7200MHz or 4 Sticks @4000Mhz

I bought 4 sticks of DDR5 T-Force Delta sticks, only to find out that I can't use them all at 7200 (pc won't post). Which is going to be better for gaming? Mainly Escape from Tarkov which is a very RAM depend game. Should I use the 2 sticks and enable XMP for 7200MHz or use all 4 sticks at 4000Mhz.

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What CPU are you using? 

 

Higher speed is going to be more important in almost all scenarios, though depending on the CPU platform you might be better off with lower speeds. 

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7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

What CPU are you using? 

 

Higher speed is going to be more important in almost all scenarios, though depending on the CPU platform you might be better off with lower speeds. 

Here are my specs:

CPU: i9-14900K

GPU: RTX 3070

Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790

This CPU is a monster with 32 cores. So i don't know exactly what would be best for it speed wise.

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4 minutes ago, Limitt said:

Here are my specs:

CPU: i9-14900K

GPU: RTX 3070

Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790

This CPU is a monster with 32 cores. So i don't know exactly what would be best for it speed wise.

With a 14900K, you want as high a memory speed as possible. Go for the 7200 setup. 

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7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

With a 14900K, you want as high a memory speed as possible. Go for the 7200 setup. 

What if I get 2 sticks of 32GB that can run at 7200MHz. Would this be something that would still post? (If there are sticks of 32GB that can run at 7200MHz).

 

Thank you so much for your help.

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9 minutes ago, Limitt said:

If there are sticks of 32GB that can run at 7200MHz

There aren't, the highest rating you can get 2x32GB is 6800MT/s, and even then, speeds above 6000MT/s with 2x32GB ends up somewhat hit or miss depending on how good your CPU is (though 6400 should usually work, especially if you have a chip where 7200 works on 4 DIMM boards). 

 

If you really want more capacity at 7200, look into getting the 2x24GB setups, those are available at 7200 CL34. 

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2 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Higher speed is going to be more important in almost all scenarios, though depending on the CPU platform you might be better off with lower speeds. 

I thought the current data showed that performance (in gaming) plateued after 6000Mhz on the 13th gen. Has that really changed for the 14th gen? Cause if not, the OP should just buy 6000 Mhz ram (which will be stable) in the capacity they need.

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2 hours ago, Limitt said:

What if I get 2 sticks of 32GB that can run at 7200MHz. Would this be something that would still post? (If there are sticks of 32GB that can run at 7200MHz).

Why do you need so much ram? If all your doing is gaming (and office work and browsing) 32GB will be completely fine.

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3 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

If you really want more capacity at 7200, look into getting the 2x24GB setups, those are available at 7200 CL34. 

Also 8000+ but intel imc is inconsistent

 

Isnt 7200 xmp still somewhat hit or miss on intel? I mean you are paying for the xmp getting a 7200 kit instead of whatever lower bin 6400c32 or whatever kit that comes with 24gbit m die and manually tuning that to 7600-8800 (depending on cpu imc) so youd want the xmp you paid for to actually just work out of the box wirh just 1 click and no manual tuning

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4 hours ago, will0hlep said:

I thought the current data showed that performance (in gaming) plateued after 6000Mhz on the 13th gen. Has that really changed for the 14th gen? Cause if not, the OP should just buy 6000 Mhz ram (which will be stable) in the capacity they need.

At least going of HW Unboxed's testing, there is some scaling past 6000MT/s. It definitely is starting to hit diminishing returns, but then again, the price difference between 6000 CL30 and 7200 CL34 is pretty small (~$20 for 2x16GB, ~$30 for 2x24GB), so if you have a chip that is capable of running 7200MT/s, you might as well run the higher clock speed. 

 

3 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Isnt 7200 xmp still somewhat hit or miss on intel?

It is, though since a) their 7200 XMP already does work, b) 2x24GB DIMMs are more likely to work at high speeds out of the box (assuming you have a BIOS revision with decent support for them at least), c) 24Gb M die isn't as consistent as 16Gb A die where higher rated DIMMs actually mean a bit more, and d) the price difference is only about $30 US. Besides, 14th gen on average should be better at high speeds on average, so 7200 should be a fair bit more hit than miss than it was on 13th gen, though there definitely are chips that will fail to do 7200+. 

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8 hours ago, Limitt said:

I bought 4 sticks of DDR5 T-Force Delta sticks, only to find out that I can't use them all at 7200 (pc won't post). Which is going to be better for gaming? Mainly Escape from Tarkov which is a very RAM depend game. Should I use the 2 sticks and enable XMP for 7200MHz or use all 4 sticks at 4000Mhz.

What is your return window on the CPU?   I would have gone 13600K, saving money to put to a much better GPU.

 

Possible?

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

What is your return window on the CPU?   I would have gone 13600K, saving money to put to a much better GPU.

 

Possible?

It was parts from my old build (RTX 3070). And i don't think im going to upgrade for a bit.

 

6 hours ago, will0hlep said:

Why do you need so much ram? If all your doing is gaming (and office work and browsing) 32GB will be completely fine.

Because Escape from Tarkov has spaghetti code and you need to have a lot of ram to run smooth frames. Just a poorly optimized game lol

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