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Worst case of computer AIDs I've ever dealt with

shadowstar1000

I need some serious expert support because I've tried everything I can reasonably think of. I've been dealing with daily BSODs for the last 6 months. The BSOD changes each time but is often memory related such as IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL or PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA, there's a bunch of different ones.  Most of these errors appear to be memory related but nothing seems to fix it. I ran memtest64 for 8 hours with no errors detected, I underclocked my memory down to 2133mhz. I did a clean install of windows, no luck. I tried switching the dims in the MOBO, I tried using a different pair of memory sticks. I caved and ended buying a new CPU, MOBO and RAM but had no luck, the issue still persists. I figured it was a failing SSD, crystal disk info reported 90% health but I tried a brand new Evo990 Pro, still BSODs within 24 hours on a clean install of windows. I ran MalwareBytes in case there was a virus on one of my HDDs but came up clean. At this point the only remaining components are a few HDDs that hold games and my home media library, my GPU, and PSU. I switched PSUs to a 1000Watt corsair from a 750Watt and am still having the issue. I pulled the GPU and ran the system on dedicated graphics and still ran into the issue. I am honestly completely lost, aside from the old HDDs I've replaced every component in the system. Any ideas?

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Is this computer connected straight into a wall socket or using a UPS?

Is there any other computer in your house?

 

You are pretty much describing two different computers experiencing the same issue. Logic then tells me it must be an external factor; it could be your grid power, a peripheral, or even electromagnetic interference from something nearby.

 

The easiest way to rule them all out would be to take the PC to a friend's house and test it there.

Qoute my reply if you want me to answer back. 

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Go to C:\Windows\Minidump and check if you have any minidump files. If you do, go back to the Windows folder and copy the Minidump folder itself to the Downloads folder (You can use the desktop if you don't have OneDrive syncing files). Zip the copied folder and attach it to a post. Please follow the instructions to the letter as Windows doesn't like you messing with files in this location.

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13 hours ago, Yua said:

Is this computer connected straight into a wall socket or using a UPS?

Is there any other computer in your house?

 

You are pretty much describing two different computers experiencing the same issue. Logic then tells me it must be an external factor; it could be your grid power, a peripheral, or even electromagnetic interference from something nearby.

 

The easiest way to rule them all out would be to take the PC to a friend's house and test it there.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it! This is a pretty good idea, but unfortunately isn't the issue. I've had this issue pop up at both my apartment and my parents house so it's not likely dirty wall power. I also have a roommate who's computer works fine. I don't use a UPS but I do use a surge protector. I'll post all the components and specs of the two machines.

 

My peripherals are: Razor Huntsman, G703, Dell S2718D, LG 27GL850, Razer Blackshark

 

Original Specs:

R7 3800X

32GB TridentZ 3600Mhz CL16

RTX 3080ti FE

ASUS Prime X570 Pro

1TB Corsair MP510

3TB Seagate Barracuda st3000dm008-2dm166

1TB Seagate HDD

1TB WD Black WDC WD1003FZEX-00K3CA0

250GB Samsung 860 Evo

Corsair RM750X

 

New Specs:

R9 7900X3D

32GB Tridentz 6400Mhz CL32

RTX 3080ti FE

ASUS Prime x670E-Pro Wifi

2TB Samsung 990 Pro

3TB Seagate Barracuda st3000dm008-2dm166

2x 12TB Seagate Ironwolf running in RAID 1

1TB WD Black WDC WD1003FZEX-00K3CA0

Corsair RM1000x

 

Reused components:

3TB Seagate Barracuda

1TB WD Black 

RTX 3080ti

 

It shouldn't be the GPU, I pulled it and had the same crashes while running on integrated graphics. 

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4 hours ago, Bjoolz said:

Go to C:\Windows\Minidump and check if you have any minidump files. If you do, go back to the Windows folder and copy the Minidump folder itself to the Downloads folder (You can use the desktop if you don't have OneDrive syncing files). Zip the copied folder and attach it to a post. Please follow the instructions to the letter as Windows doesn't like you messing with files in this location.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, the minidumps are attached below.

Minidump.zip

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23 minutes ago, shadowstar1000 said:

Thanks for taking the time to reply, the minidumps are attached below.

Minidump.zip 2.08 MB · 0 downloads

In 3 out 4 it looks like storage. In the last one it's triggered by this command "nt!SwapContext+0x4b1" and the swap file is a different name for the page file, but I'm not a programmer so I don't know if I'm just looking for storage and finding storage where there aren't any signs of it with this one.

 

EDIT: In the other three they all involved the filter manager driver. This driver's job is to make sure files are handled properly. Commonly seen with storage issues. Ntfs.sys also showed up, it should be self explanatory why this showing up makes storage suspect. 

 

Storage and RAM can look a lot like each other because of the page file so it's very common to confuse the two. We can check the self diagnostics of the drive, but with modern SSDs (Basically all NVMe drives) the SMART data is useless. The page file is usually on C:, and because this looks like RAM in some ways the drive with the page file is the main suspect, but we can check which drive it's actually on. Open Disk Management and in the bottom half where the drives are visualized. Under the size of each partition, look for "Page file". It can be on multiple drives so check all of them.

 

To give me the SMART data to look at, follow this guide and link to the pastebin here. The copy feature pulls data from all connected drives, you don't have to do it multiple times.

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9 minutes ago, Bjoolz said:

In 3 out 4 it looks like storage. In the last one it's triggered by this command "nt!SwapContext+0x4b1" and the swap file is a different name for the page file, but I'm not a programmer so I don't know if I'm just looking for storage and finding storage where there aren't any signs of it with this one.

 

Storage and RAM can look a lot like each other because of the page file so it's very common to confuse the two. We can check the self diagnostics of the drive, but with modern SSDs (Basically all NVMe drives) the SMART data is useless. The page file is usually on C:, and because this looks like RAM the drive with the page file is the main suspect, but we can check which drive it's actually on. Open Disk Management and in the bottom half where the drives are visualized. Under the size of each partition, look for "Page file". It can be on multiple drives so check all of them.

 

To give me the SMART data to look at, follow this guide and link to the pastebin here.

Thanks again for the reply, crystal disk info is here https://pastebin.com/sRXWcAgz

 

The page file appears to be on my C drive, this is the new 2TB Samsung 990Pro. 

Disk info.PNG

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Just now, shadowstar1000 said:

Thanks again for the reply, crystal disk info is here https://pastebin.com/sRXWcAgz

 

The page file appears to be on my C drive, this is the new 2TB Samsung 990Pro. 

Disk info.PNG

 

None of the drives are reporting any errors. Like I said, with these modern SSDs the self diagnostic is basically useless and that's what all tools that check storage use.

 

Could you remove the SSD and install Windows to something else just for testing? And I would want it actually removed, faulty drives can cause weird issues even when just connected.

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3 hours ago, Bjoolz said:

 

None of the drives are reporting any errors. Like I said, with these modern SSDs the self diagnostic is basically useless and that's what all tools that check storage use.

 

Could you remove the SSD and install Windows to something else just for testing? And I would want it actually removed, faulty drives can cause weird issues even when just connected.

I'm going to try taking out all the HDDs and seeing if it still has issues, I was still having the same error with the Corsair MP510 as my boot drive and the HDDs are the only components that I haven't tried removing yet. I'll post an update next time I have a crash, I really appreciate all your help 🙂 

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