Intel vs AMD Build - First PC Build

[BluebirdLifestyle]

Budget (including currency): $1800 USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games, Work from Home, Streaming, Editing, Game Design 

Hello all, I'm planning to build my first PC and am having trouble choosing between Intel or AMD, I have used Micro Centers PC Builder to help narrow down my search.

I will be using my set up not only for streaming but also for video/photo editing, video game design, coding projects, and maybe working from home in the future.

The only things I am not wanting to switch up is the CPU, Motherboard, and Ram for each build due to being on a bundle deal but I could possibly switch my ram on my intel build to 64gb .

As far as price goes, I am willing to spend up to $1800 USD overall.

Any advice on which GPU, CPU, or really anything in general about my builds would greatly be appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!!

AMD Build - $1704 USD

• Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• Motherboard: ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB
• RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 64GB 2 x 32GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

 

Intel Build - $1657 USD

• Processor: Intel Core i9-14900K Raptor Lake
• Motherboard: MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk Max WiFi 
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming LHR Overclocked Triple-Fan 8GB
• RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB 2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

[Agall]

Why have different GPUs between them?

 

I'd suggest going with the 7800 XT or 4070 with the 14700k/14900k instead. If you're not opting for 7000x3D, the i7 or i9 variants for 14th gen are bis.

 

Intel Core i9-14900K vs Intel Core i7-14700K Benchmark, comparison and differences (cpu-monkey.com)

 

The 14700k and 14900k aren't far off this generation since the 14700k only lacks 3MB of L3 and an E-core cluster this time around.

[filpo]

38 minutes ago, BluebirdLifestyle said:

Budget (including currency): $1800 USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games, Work from Home, Streaming, Editing, Game Design 

Hello all, I'm planning to build my first PC and am having trouble choosing between Intel or AMD, I have used Micro Centers PC Builder to help narrow down my search.

I will be using my set up not only for streaming but also for video/photo editing, video game design, coding projects, and maybe working from home in the future.

The only things I am not wanting to switch up is the CPU, Motherboard, and Ram for each build due to being on a bundle deal but I could possibly switch my ram on my intel build to 64gb .

As far as price goes, I am willing to spend up to $1800 USD overall.

Any advice on which GPU, CPU, or really anything in general about my builds would greatly be appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!!

AMD Build - $1704 USD

• Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• Motherboard: ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB
• RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 64GB 2 x 32GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

 

Intel Build - $1657 USD

• Processor: Intel Core i9-14900K Raptor Lake
• Motherboard: MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk Max WiFi 
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming LHR Overclocked Triple-Fan 8GB
• RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB 2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

Neither. Get a 7900 xtx

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($410.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Mushkin Vortex Redline 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($949.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.90 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Total: $1839.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 15:31 EST-0500

Edited November 30, 2023 by filpo

[starsmine]

I assume they want the cores because of the Video editing and coding

[Dedayog]

28 minutes ago, BluebirdLifestyle said:

Budget (including currency): $1800 USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games, Work from Home, Streaming, Editing, Game Design 

Hello all, I'm planning to build my first PC and am having trouble choosing between Intel or AMD, I have used Micro Centers PC Builder to help narrow down my search.

I will be using my set up not only for streaming but also for video/photo editing, video game design, coding projects, and maybe working from home in the future.

The only things I am not wanting to switch up is the CPU, Motherboard, and Ram for each build due to being on a bundle deal but I could possibly switch my ram on my intel build to 64gb .

As far as price goes, I am willing to spend up to $1800 USD overall.

Any advice on which GPU, CPU, or really anything in general about my builds would greatly be appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!!

AMD Build - $1704 USD

• Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• Motherboard: ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB
• RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 64GB 2 x 32GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

 

Intel Build - $1657 USD

• Processor: Intel Core i9-14900K Raptor Lake
• Motherboard: MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk Max WiFi 
• CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P360
• Case: Fractal Design Pop Air
• Graphics Card: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming LHR Overclocked Triple-Fan 8GB
• RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB 2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold

Do you have a MC near you, since you're using their partbuilder?

 

10 minutes ago, starsmine said:

I assume they want the cores because of the Video editing and coding

True, but if he's coming from nothing or something older... the 7800X3D does editing much much better than he's used to.

 

But a good point is the 13700K bundle is serious business as is the 7800X3D at MC.

 

 

[ulookuglynoob]

I think that the amd build is better, but I think you should get something like a rtx 4090 instead of a rx 7800.

 

[Why_Me]

13 minutes ago, filpo said:

Neither. Get a 7900 xtx

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($358.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Mushkin Vortex Redline 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($949.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($120.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1818.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 15:09 EST-0500

Just curious but how does the 7800X3D stack up to the 7900X and / or the Intel cpu in regards to productivity such as video editing.

[BluebirdLifestyle]

17 minutes ago, Agall said:

Why have different GPUs between them?

 

I'd suggest going with the 7800 XT or 4070 with the 14700k/14900k instead. If you're not opting for 7000x3D, the i7 or i9 variants for 14th gen are bis.

 

Intel Core i9-14900K vs Intel Core i7-14700K Benchmark, comparison and differences (cpu-monkey.com)

 

The 14700k and 14900k aren't far off this generation since the 14700k only lacks 3MB of L3 and an E-core cluster this time around.

I wasn't sure if I should go with NVIDIA or RADEON for what I plan on using the PC for or if there was any benefits of having an Intel GPU with a NVIDIA or AMD CPU with a RADEON. Thank you for the advice, I will certainly look into your suggestions!

[Why_Me]

1 minute ago, ulookuglynoob said:

I think that the amd build is better, but I think you should get something like a rtx 4090 instead of a rx 7800.

 

I'd be driving a new Ferrari if it wasn't for my budget.

[Why_Me]

1 minute ago, BluebirdLifestyle said:

I wasn't sure if I should go with NVIDIA or RADEON for what I plan on using the PC for or if there was any benefits of having an Intel GPU with a NVIDIA or AMD CPU with a RADEON. Thank you for the advice, I will certainly look into your suggestions!

If you plan on streaming then it would be Nvidia.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

[BluebirdLifestyle]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Do you have a MC near you, since you're using their partbuilder?

 

True, but if he's coming from nothing or something older... the 7800X3D does editing much much better than he's used to.

 

But a good point is the 13700K bundle is serious business as is the 7800X3D at MC.

 

 

Correct, I have a MC only a couple hours away and also because of their bundles they have right now with AMD and Intel CPUs. 

I have mainly been using my Dell Lattitude-3500 for most of my usage. But due to wanting to get into streaming, 3D rendering, and various projects, I need something a lot better and wont have the need to upgrade for several years

[ulookuglynoob]

6 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

I'd be driving a new Ferrari if it wasn't for my budget.

Oh, i forgot about your budget. maybe get a rtx 4070 or a rtx 3080, since they have about the same performance as the rx 7800 xt. Also try a rtx 4060 ti, if the rtx 4070 is over budget, but the rtx 4060 ti is worse than the rx 7800 xt.

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Just curious but how does the 7800X3D stack up to the 7900X and / or the Intel cpu in regards to productivity such as video editing.

Sorry I missed that in the post, editing now

It's about the same as a 5900x or a 7700x

[starsmine]

19 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Just curious but how does the 7800X3D stack up to the 7900X and / or the Intel cpu in regards to productivity such as video editing.

I still prefer the 7900 over intel just because of heat in room and power in general. 
Sure it can compile in 71min what took the 7900x 87 min to do. But it did it at 300W rather than 150W.
Which is 348Wh vs 225Wh
Thats a lot of 120Wh per compile more, which yes is only a bit more than a penny per run, but over a year of working on the PC that's easily 20-30 dollars in the extra power produced and cooling the house down. (And if you game for a few hours, its also nice)

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Just curious but how does the 7800X3D stack up to the 7900X and / or the Intel cpu in regards to productivity such as video editing.

Didn't you ask me this a few days ago or a week?

 

Not sure if we had any proof to back anything up or not.  But looks like @filpo found some.

 

My point is that rendering is neat but unless you're doing it for a job, the big boys aren't needed.  7950X and 14900K are niche chips,  not to say don't get one but at least understand about them.

[starsmine]

15 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

If you plan on streaming then it would be Nvidia.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

AMF is more than competative for streaming as of OBS 28. That really is a non-factor now. 

[Why_Me]

Here's another option to consider.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($340.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $964.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 15:45 EST-0500

 

A better look at that cpu and board.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230500/intel-core-i713700k-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z790-GAMING-PRO-WIFI   

 

 

[Agall]

19 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Didn't you ask me this a few days ago or a week?

 

Not sure if we had any proof to back anything up or not.  But looks like @filpo found some.

 

My point is that rendering is neat but unless you're doing it for a job, the big boys aren't needed.  7950X and 14900K are niche chips,  not to say don't get one but at least understand about them.

Optimum Tech ended up using a 7800x3D over the 7950x3D for his editing rig just for the simplicity. Its obviously slower to do some things, but not slow enough to justify the extra power draw and complexity for him.

 

I'd say the 14700k or 7800x3D are the best bets. Having all the multithreading isn't always the best, even if it is beneficial for one task.

[jaslion]

29 minutes ago, BluebirdLifestyle said:

I wasn't sure if I should go with NVIDIA or RADEON for what I plan on using the PC for or if there was any benefits of having an Intel GPU with a NVIDIA or AMD CPU with a RADEON. Thank you for the advice, I will certainly look into your suggestions!

Do you use premiere or davinci resolve? Because in premiere radeon sucks but in davinci its VERY competitive.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nxrZz6

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($340.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ GameStop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($739.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1693.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 15:57 EST-0500

 

If you use davinci I'd go this route.

 

Else switch to a 4070ti. Slower gpu but better for editing in premiere.

 

Else well Budget optimized the build. 7800x3d has higher gaming performance by like 10% in games that are cpu bottlenecked, however the tradeoff with editing performance isn't usually worth it. That and a 13700k is NO SLOUCH in gaming what so ever at all.