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Factory Seconds Framework (11th Gen Intel) vs Used Macbook Air (M1): Opinions Wanted

Both laptops can be had for around $700 and there's a good argument for both.

 

I'm pretty sick of the windows modern standby issue and having my Thinkpad be dead half the time I go to use it. I've talked a lot of crap on Apple's practices over the years but what they've done with the M1 chip is just impressive good technology. I can eat some crow and see myself buying a used macbook air, and still sleep at night because I'm not directly handing cash to Apple. Framework seems a great company but I really don't need the newest hardware or mind some cosmetic blemishes. I'm very partial to the older style Thinkpad keyboard and Framework seems to be similar. Keyboard is the #1 item to me for laptops.

 

I'd appreciate any opinions or addition information you all might have.

 

Thanks!

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Depending on what you need your Laptop for switching to Linux could be a viable option and you would keep the same keyboard. ThinkPads are usually one of the best for running Linux.

 

If the keyboard really is your main concern it probably is a good idea to test them somewhere first if you really want to buy something new.

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Just learn not to care about what logo is on the back of your child labour built electronics. Ultimately nothing comes close to the MacBook in terms of battery life + performance. The form factor is nice and the screen is better than frameworks by a country mile. Keyboard is subjective, I’d suggest going to a store and trying them. 
 

I’d also look at the Apple refurbished store and sales on at other retailers for the M1 

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