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yeah i didnt see much of a change and when im out of big fights i can get 170 sometimes but im in the competetive scene so they happen alot.
the other guy also said that the 6700 XT would be a good choice so i think ill probobly do that do you have a specific one i should get?

The specific model doesn't matter too much - the GPU die and VRAM configuration will be the same. So generally, I'd just go with whichever is cheapest. I would pay a bit more to get a beefier cooler with 3 fans over a basic dual fan model, assuming it will fit in your case, but I'd only pay 5-10% more at the most. Because if you pay too much more for the fancy cooler, you could just go up to the RX 6800 and get better performance.

Here are my specs:

  • Core i5-11400f (cpu)
  • AMD RX 6500XT 4gb (gpu)
  • T-Force TUF 16gb 2x8gb 3200 DDR4 (ram)
  • Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC (motherboard)

I asked reddit why I wasn't getting great fps when it should be a good GPU and was told that the 6500XT is bad so I should upgrade which I was already thinking of.

What GPU should I upgrade to that would work with my CPU better for more fps and better performance that's for a good price (AMD preferably nothing 400 or more)

Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC | Intel i5 11400f | AMD RX 6500 XT 4gb | T-Force TUF 16gb (2x8) 3200 mhz 
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1 minute ago, NessieDT said:

Here are my specs:

  • Core i5-11400f (cpu)
  • AMD RX 6500XT 4gb (gpu)
  • T-Force TUF 16gb 2x8gb 3200 DDR4 (ram)
  • Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC (motherboard)

I asked reddit why I wasn't getting great fps when it should be a good GPU and was told that the 6500XT is bad so I should upgrade which I was already thinking of.

What GPU should I upgrade to that would work with my CPU better for more fps and better performance that's for a good price (nothing 400 or more)

I wouldn't go more than $300 USD on just the GPU with a i5 11400f, so something like an RX 6700 XT. Otherwise, you'll want to upgrade your whole platform at some point, at least an RX 6700 XT would fair well on both.

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1 minute ago, Agall said:

I wouldn't go more than $300 USD on just the GPU with a i5 11400f, so something like an RX 6700 XT. Otherwise, you'll want to upgrade your whole platform at some point, at least an RX 6700 XT would fair well on both.

Ok, thank you, how much better is the 6700XT over the 6500XT to measure because people said the 6500 XT was a poorly made GPU

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What games are you playing?

 

Since you're on a PCIe 4.0 system, your 6500XT should be getting its full performance, which is above that of an RX 580 4GB. Not amazing by today's standards, but if you only play eSports titles at competitive settings like Fortnite, CS2, OW2, etc. then you probably won't see much benefit with a faster GPU.

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4 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

What games are you playing?

 

Since you're on a PCIe 4.0 system, your 6500XT should be getting its full performance, which is above that of an RX 580 4GB. Not amazing by today's standards, but if you only play eSports titles at competitive settings like Fortnite, CS2, OW2, etc. then you probably won't see much benefit with a faster GPU.

well I play variety but mostly Forza 5 (avg 100 FPS all low settings), Fortnite (avg 150 FPS Performance mode), CarX (avg 110 fps ultra settings) and Rainbow Six Seige (avg 160 medium settings).
i actually used to own a 580 4gb until i changed to a 6500 XT

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4 minutes ago, NessieDT said:

well I play variety but mostly Forza 5 (avg 100 FPS all low settings), Fortnite (avg 150 FPS Performance mode), CarX (avg 110 fps ultra settings).
i actually used to own a 580 4gb until i changed to a 6500 XT

6500 XT is unique in that its effectively a low tier laptop GPU die soldered onto a PCIe card and given enough power to be somewhat useful. Its just not a good card and should've released closer to $100-150 if not at all.

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3 minutes ago, Agall said:

6500 XT is unique in that its effectively a low tier laptop GPU die soldered onto a PCIe card and given enough power to be somewhat useful. Its just not a good card and should've released closer to $100-150 if not at all.

alright, i was thinking about a 6600 XT but you said 6700 XT how much of a difference is there between the two

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Just now, NessieDT said:

well I play variety but mostly Forza 5 (avg 100 FPS all low settings), Fortnite (avg 150 FPS Performance mode), CarX (avg 110 fps ultra settings).
i actually used to own a 580 4gb until i changed to a 6500 XT

I'm sorry that happened to you. The 6500XT is not a real upgrade over the RX 580. It's basically a side-grade, because while it is faster in a PCIe 4.0 system (which you have) it also loses out on features like a hardware encoder. And while you do technically get ray-tracing support, the RX 6500XT is not powerful enough to do RT beyond for taking a screenshot, if that.

 

I imagine you didn't see much improvement in FPS when you changed to the 6500XT.

 

I'm surprised that you aren't seeing better FPS in Fortnite with performance mode. Your 11400F should be able to get over 200fps pretty easily outside of big fights and other intensive situations. Looking at some benchmarks online, it looks like at 1080p low, the RX 6500XT really does struggle to get much above 150fps, so it seems like that's what's holding you back there.

 

I'll second the RX 6700XT recommendation. That's a great pairing with your i5 11400F and is easily several times more capable.

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7 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

I'm sorry that happened to you. The 6500XT is not a real upgrade over the RX 580. It's basically a side-grade, because while it is faster in a PCIe 4.0 system (which you have) it also loses out on features like a hardware encoder. And while you do technically get ray-tracing support, the RX 6500XT is not powerful enough to do RT beyond for taking a screenshot, if that.

 

I imagine you didn't see much improvement in FPS when you changed to the 6500XT.

 

I'm surprised that you aren't seeing better FPS in Fortnite with performance mode. Your 11400F should be able to get over 200fps pretty easily outside of big fights and other intensive situations. Looking at some benchmarks online, it looks like at 1080p low, the RX 6500XT really does struggle to get much above 150fps, so it seems like that's what's holding you back there.

 

I'll second the RX 6700XT recommendation. That's a great pairing with your i5 11400F and is easily several times more capable.

yeah i didnt see much of a change and when im out of big fights i can get 170 sometimes but im in the competetive scene so they happen alot.
the other guy also said that the 6700 XT would be a good choice so i think ill probobly do that do you have a specific one i should get?

Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC | Intel i5 11400f | AMD RX 6500 XT 4gb | T-Force TUF 16gb (2x8) 3200 mhz 
Samsung 27' CRG5 Freesync, 144hz | Lenovo 21.5' LI2264d, 75hz
 

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14 minutes ago, NessieDT said:

alright, i was thinking about a 6600 XT but you said 6700 XT how much of a difference is there between the two

PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT Video Card AXRX 6650XT 8GBD6-3DH - Newegg.com

 

ASRock Radeon RX 6700 XT Challenger D Gaming Graphic Card, 12GB GDDR6 VRAM, AMD RDNA2 (RX6700XT CLD 12G) - Newegg.com

 

It really depends on if that extra $80 is worth it to you. If you don't plan to upgrade your CPU within the next couple of years, then saving that $80 now might be worth it. If you're willing to spend another $400 or so on upgrading your CPU to get the most out of the RX 6700 XT, then I'd say you'd want the 6700 XT instead.

 

The hardline I'd give between these two, if you don't plan on upgrading your CPU within the next 6 months, then just buy the RX 6650 XT and save some money. An i5 11400f will hold back an RX 6700 XT somewhat, but it depends on the games and your expectation of smoothness. If you play a lot more of Fortnite and those types of games than the latter, then I'd just go for the 6650 XT and start saving to replace your whole PC in about 2 years (if you want more performance at that point).

 

Relative to value, the 6700 XT isn't worth ~36% more cost outside of the VRAM. If you're primarily playing games that run perfectly fine on 8GB of VRAM at 1080p or such, then the 6700 XT's extra performance might go to waste on an i5 11400f.

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Just now, NessieDT said:

yeah i didnt see much of a change and when im out of big fights i can get 170 sometimes but im in the competetive scene so they happen alot.
the other guy also said that the 6700 XT would be a good choice so i think ill probobly do that do you have a specific one i should get?

The specific model doesn't matter too much - the GPU die and VRAM configuration will be the same. So generally, I'd just go with whichever is cheapest. I would pay a bit more to get a beefier cooler with 3 fans over a basic dual fan model, assuming it will fit in your case, but I'd only pay 5-10% more at the most. Because if you pay too much more for the fancy cooler, you could just go up to the RX 6800 and get better performance.

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1 minute ago, YoungBlade said:

The specific model doesn't matter too much - the GPU die and VRAM configuration will be the same. So generally, I'd just go with whichever is cheapest. I would pay a bit more to get a beefier cooler with 3 fans over a basic dual fan model, assuming it will fit in your case, but I'd only pay 5-10% more at the most. Because if you pay too much more for the fancy cooler, you could just go up to the RX 6800 and get better performance.

alright thank you ill probobly just get the cheapest one (asrock with 2 fans)

Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC | Intel i5 11400f | AMD RX 6500 XT 4gb | T-Force TUF 16gb (2x8) 3200 mhz 
Samsung 27' CRG5 Freesync, 144hz | Lenovo 21.5' LI2264d, 75hz
 

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Also to answer your question OP the 6700XT is quite literally more than double the performance of a 6500XT.

 

Twchpowerup has it at 234% of the performance of a 6500XT which to put into perspective there is a slightly larger performance gap between a 6500XT and 6700XT than there is between a 6700XT and a 7900XTX or RTX4080.

CPU : Ryzen 7 7800X3D @ -18mv all core except -13mv on Core 5 because its a pig.

CPU Cooler : Deepcool AK620 Zero Dark

Mobo : MSI B650M-A Wifi MATX

Ram : 32GB (2X16GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000MHZ CL34

GPU : Reference Design RX7900XT sold by Saphire running at 1050MV undervolt and +15% PL (355w)

Storage : 1TB WD SN770 + 2TB Samsung 970 Evo

PSU : Corsair HX750w Platinum

Case : Asus Prime AP201 All Mesh MATX

Case Fans : Arctic p12's everywhere i can fit them in , 7 In total.

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9 hours ago, Bagzie said:

Also to answer your question OP the 6700XT is quite literally more than double the performance of a 6500XT.

 

Twchpowerup has it at 234% of the performance of a 6500XT which to put into perspective there is a slightly larger performance gap between a 6500XT and 6700XT than there is between a 6700XT and a 7900XTX or RTX4080.

thank you bro

Gigabyte B560m DS3H AC | Intel i5 11400f | AMD RX 6500 XT 4gb | T-Force TUF 16gb (2x8) 3200 mhz 
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