Building high-end system right now and need help

[Blizzforte]

I haven't come very far. This is my first build, so no experience at all. I have inserted the PSU without cables and I have installed the CPU, SSD and RAM onto the motherboard. There are a lot of cables which I don't know what they are or where they go, let alone cable management. Any help is highly appreciated! 

 

ROG Maximus Z790 Hero

HAF 700 EVO

i9-13900KS

Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL360 Flux

Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD 2TB

ROG Thor 1200W Platinum II

Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 64GB

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition

 

 

[jaslion]

Read the manual. That will be most helpfull.

 

Also the cables have a name on them for where they go normally.

 

Rgb IGNORE. Like DO NOT PLUG THAT IN. First try to see if the damn thing works. Of course first and formost make sure your aio is installed and mounted to the top as INTAKE!!!!!!!!

 

But basically for your build it would be:

 

• a 24pin cable to the big one on the motherboard. biggest cable you have
• A 2x4pin CPU POWER CABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! very important that you get that right. It's a 2x 4 pin one. You might want 2 of these
• For the gpu you will either have a 16 pin PCIE power cable OR you use the adapter from nvidia which wants 4x 6+2ping GPU power cables. I recommend the 16 pin cable. Make sure this is 10000000% full plugged in and do NOT bend the cable a lot. It needs a lot of give and flex room for  proper contact this is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!!!!!!

Front panel headers read the manual it will tell you where they go and then hit the power button and see what happens.

 

Rgb shouldn't be on except for what is on the gpu, board and aio potentially all that stuff is step 2 and well first get through step 1

 

[IgniVellex]

probably the best guide I have ever seen. very helpful and it's divided into sections to make it easier to understand.

[Dedayog]

16 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

I haven't come very far. This is my first build, so no experience at all. I have inserted the PSU without cables and I have installed the CPU, SSD and RAM onto the motherboard. There are a lot of cables which I don't know what they are or where they go, let alone cable management. Any help is highly appreciated! 

 

ROG Maximus Z790 Hero

HAF 700 EVO

i9-13900KS

Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL360 Flux

Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD 2TB

ROG Thor 1200W Platinum II

Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 64GB

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition

 

 

All that money and no research?  Please at least watch a build guide or the manuals... they're included for a reason.

[goatedpenguin]

First of all RTFM second of all you should not be purchasing high end pc parts and not knowing how to build the pc my advice is that you should go watch a pc building tutorial like the one from techsource who has a very detailed guide and I highly tmr. Recommend him imo ltt pc building vid is a bit vague 

here is the video: 

 

[Robchil]

36 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

I haven't come very far. This is my first build, so no experience at all. I have inserted the PSU without cables and I have installed the CPU, SSD and RAM onto the motherboard. There are a lot of cables which I don't know what they are or where they go, let alone cable management. Any help is highly appreciated! 

 

ROG Maximus Z790 Hero

HAF 700 EVO

i9-13900KS

Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL360 Flux

Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD 2TB

ROG Thor 1200W Platinum II

Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 64GB

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition

 

 

for that price... you should deliver the parts to someone that can build it and pay them for it.... 

[IkeaGnome]

Forget everyone saying bad things. Pick through manuals, post pictures of what you have questions of and we'll get you sorted. 

[goatedpenguin]

10 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Forget everyone saying bad things. Pick through manuals, post pictures of what you have questions of and we'll get you sorted. 

lol this not saying bad things it is stupid if you buy parts that cost people’s monthly paychecks and risk breaking them highly advice you should pay an extra and ask someone to build the pc for u.

[IkeaGnome]

10 minutes ago, goatedpenguin said:

lol this not saying bad things it is stupid if you buy parts that cost people’s monthly paychecks and risk breaking them highly advice you should pay an extra and ask someone to build the pc for u.

That's assuming they don't want to learn to build computers. They a) bought parts, not a prebuilt and b) came here for help to build the computer. No sense in acting like a tool when they want to learn and ask for help. 

 

Edit: Keep in mind, my first post here was asking for help for cloning windows since I was too lazy to fresh install, and yours was whether fans would work in a case or not. We all start somewhere. 

[Blizzforte]

Now that I have the SSD, RAM and CPU installed on the motherboard, I need to mount the motherboard in the case, correct? The manual for the case says so. But the board is very heavy and somehow it won't mount into the pins to hold it up before I can get the screws in. '

 

Then, after that, I install the AiO, correct?

 

Also, the motherboard came with a WiFi antenna. Should I use it?

 

I have done research for 1-2 weeks. Watched many tutorials. But because every case and configuration is very different, it's a completely different thing to have it in front of you as a beginner. If this system is $5000 or $2000, doesn't matter, I need to start somewhere anyway. 

[IkeaGnome]

Just now, Blizzforte said:

Now that I have the SSD, RAM and CPU installed on the motherboard, I need to mount the motherboard in the case, correct? The manual for the case says so. But the board is very heavy and somehow it won't mount into the pins to hold it up before I can get the screws in. '

Have you booted the computer outside the case yet? I always do that before putting the computer into a case. It's much easier to troubleshoot if something went wrong out side the case.

 

Set the motherboard on the box it came in, install the AIO, plug in your 24 pin, 8 pin CPU power connector and your display. Turn on. Make sure it goes through all it's cycles and gets you into BIOS. You can install Windows here if you want, but it doesn't make much of a difference.

2 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

But the board is very heavy and somehow it won't mount into the pins to hold it up before I can get the screws in. '

Do you have the case laying on it's side so that the motherboard just sets down onto the standoffs(those pins)? Gravity helps here. There should be 9 standoffs for an ATX motherboard. If they didn't all come preinstalled in the case there will be more in the accessories box that came with the case. 

 

4 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Then, after that, I install the AiO, correct?

 

What I personally like to do is install any fans not on the AIO, and the power supply. Run the power supply cables, fan cables, and front panel cables to close to where you know you'll want them. Not having the motherboard and all that in the case leaves you a little bit more room to work with everything. Then I'll install the cooler onto the motherboard, and with an AIO I'll install the motherboard into the case, then mount the AIO radiator. If your case doesn't have a cut out behind the motherboard big enough to put the mounting plate on the back of the motherboard while it's installed, you'd have to pull it back out anyways. Installing the cooler first gives you something to hold on to and makes it so you know you don't have to pull the motherboard back out. 

 

Then I'll mount the GPU, and fire the computer back up to install Windows.

7 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Also, the motherboard came with a WiFi antenna. Should I use it?

I would whether you're using WiFi or ethernet. It doesn't hurt anything to have plugged in and just sitting on the top of the case or sticking out the back of the motherboard.

7 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

I have done research for 1-2 weeks. Watched many tutorials. But because every case and configuration is very difficult, it's a completely different thing to have it in front of you as a beginner. If this system is $5000 or $2000, doesn't matter, I need to start somewhere anyway. 

For sure price doesn't make a difference in how confusing your first build is. Like I said, forget those people. 

[Blizzforte]

10 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Have you booted the computer outside the case yet? I always do that before putting the computer into a case. It's much easier to troubleshoot if something went wrong out side the case.

 

Set the motherboard on the box it came in, install the AIO, plug in your 24 pin, 8 pin CPU power connector and your display. Turn on. Make sure it goes through all it's cycles and gets you into BIOS. You can install Windows here if you want, but it doesn't make much of a difference.

Do you have the case laying on it's side so that the motherboard just sets down onto the standoffs(those pins)? Gravity helps here. There should be 9 standoffs for an ATX motherboard. If they didn't all come preinstalled in the case there will be more in the accessories box that came with the case. 

 

What I personally like to do is install any fans not on the AIO, and the power supply. Run the power supply cables, fan cables, and front panel cables to close to where you know you'll want them. Not having the motherboard and all that in the case leaves you a little bit more room to work with everything. Then I'll install the cooler onto the motherboard, and with an AIO I'll install the motherboard into the case, then mount the AIO radiator. If your case doesn't have a cut out behind the motherboard big enough to put the mounting plate on the back of the motherboard while it's installed, you'd have to pull it back out anyways. Installing the cooler first gives you something to hold on to and makes it so you know you don't have to pull the motherboard back out. 

 

Then I'll mount the GPU, and fire the computer back up to install Windows.

I would whether you're using WiFi or ethernet. It doesn't hurt anything to have plugged in and just sitting on the top of the case or sticking out the back of the motherboard.

For sure price doesn't make a difference in how confusing your first build is. Like I said, forget those people. 

Thanks. Can you please take a look at this video. He uses the same case as me. Take a look at his process and the case, maybe that makes things easier. 
 

 

[IkeaGnome]

6 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Thanks. Can you please take a look at this video. He uses the same case as me. Take a look at his process and the case, maybe that makes things easier. 
 

 

I skimmed through that video, then found this one which is also the same case, but Intel. He goes through step by step a little bit better. 

It seems like the motherboard not lining up quite correctly is a problem with that case in general. He leaves some screws out, which is fine, but what I've done is start with screws all loose, then you can kind of gently twist the board a little bit to get the rest of the holes to line up. 

[Blizzforte]

1 hour ago, IkeaGnome said:

I skimmed through that video, then found this one which is also the same case, but Intel. He goes through step by step a little bit better. 

It seems like the motherboard not lining up quite correctly is a problem with that case in general. He leaves some screws out, which is fine, but what I've done is start with screws all loose, then you can kind of gently twist the board a little bit to get the rest of the holes to line up. 

Thanks. I installed the motherboard now. I got almost all screws in. The IO is a little bit misaligned. Looks like it's a case issue. The guy in the video leaves out quite a lot like mounting the AiO, it's also a different AiO.

[Robchil]

52 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Thanks. I installed the motherboard now. I got almost all screws in. The IO is a little bit misaligned. Looks like it's a case issue. The guy in the video leaves out quite a lot like mounting the AiO, it's also a different AiO.

AIO's are usually mounted by assembling the fans on it first.. most have the fans on the side of the tubes. like you see on the picture that will push the air through the radiator (push setup). 

remember to remove the plastic on the cooling head before mounting it on. and the cooling compound that is on it should work 1 time. second time you should replace it with thermal paste or thermal sheet. screw the fasteing nuts on a little bit at a time to keep an equal pressure on the compound as it will spread as the torq on the screws/nuts are increased.

 

the fans should be placed so their cables come out in one place.. follow the manual, it is usually explained there how to connect everything.

I would not use the CPU_FAN myself, but to not use it you will need to enter bios and disable alarms on the CPU_FAN header. follow whatever the instructions say. 

 

[Blizzforte]

11 hours ago, Robchil said:

AIO's are usually mounted by assembling the fans on it first.. most have the fans on the side of the tubes. like you see on the picture that will push the air through the radiator (push setup). 

remember to remove the plastic on the cooling head before mounting it on. and the cooling compound that is on it should work 1 time. second time you should replace it with thermal paste or thermal sheet. screw the fasteing nuts on a little bit at a time to keep an equal pressure on the compound as it will spread as the torq on the screws/nuts are increased.

Each of the three AiO fans have one thin cable hanging from them. In which orientation do I mount them? 

[Blizzforte]

I do not know anything about the cables and what they do or where they go or where to mount them. And there are lots of cables. YouTube guides do not do a good job of showing every step in detail. Install AiO on motherboard first and then mount them both? Or first mount the AiO to the case and then the motherboard, etc. Many different options, and I do not understand any of it. Each manual tells its own story, in disregard to the whole setup. This is far more complicated than any YouTube guide or friend tells you.

[Robchil]

1 hour ago, Blizzforte said:

Each of the three AiO fans have one thin cable hanging from them. In which orientation do I mount them? 

no.. it's logical..

did you watch the video from coolermaster? 

 

fans are mounted so the cables are on the backside of the radiator when it's mounted. 

it makes it easier to pull the cables out holes in the case near the back of the radiator so you can cable manage them behind your mainboard. 

 

intel setup starts in the middle of the video. 

it shows where you put the blob of thermal paste.. you need about a pea size blob in the middle and remove the plastic before pressing it down on the cpu and screw the nuts on until they bottom out. 

 

use CPU_FAN header for the fans, and AIO_FAN header for the pump. 

 

 

[Blizzforte]

2 hours ago, Robchil said:

no.. it's logical..

did you watch the video from coolermaster? 

 

fans are mounted so the cables are on the backside of the radiator when it's mounted. 

it makes it easier to pull the cables out holes in the case near the back of the radiator so you can cable manage them behind your mainboard. 

 

intel setup starts in the middle of the video. 

it shows where you put the blob of thermal paste.. you need about a pea size blob in the middle and remove the plastic before pressing it down on the cpu and screw the nuts on until they bottom out. 

 

use CPU_FAN header for the fans, and AIO_FAN header for the pump. 

 

 

I've watched the video before. Here you can see that the motherboard is a different one and he also mounts something under it, while my motherboard is already mounted inside the case. The other guy does it different, as you can see here.

 

[Blizzforte]

Also the bracket that he from the Cooler Master video uses to mount behind the motherboard is different from my bracket.

[Blizzforte]

Literally each and every step and part from any video and manual is different from my build. This is why one can't just tell people to "just build your own PC bro". I would like to but all of these factors make it so much more difficult. Even the over one hour video from Linus is useless if the build is different. I've watches all of it, nothing makes sense. What is needed is a video for my exact build, explaining everything slow and extremely detailed, explaining every single step, detail, functionality and hand movement in the process. But that doesn't exist. 

[Robchil]

52 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Literally each and every step and part from any video and manual is different from my build. This is why one can't just tell people to "just build your own PC bro". I would like to but all of these factors make it so much more difficult. Even the over one hour video from Linus is useless if the build is different. I've watches all of it, nothing makes sense. What is needed is a video for my exact build, explaining everything slow and extremely detailed, explaining every single step, detail, functionality and hand movement in the process. But that doesn't exist. 

well.. it's a reason why i said for that you should leave it someone that knows and pay them..  

this is a crashcourse in how to assemble some of the parts..  when you look at the video.. also look at your mainboard where what ports are, some argb ports say argb, some say rainbow.. it's the same 3 pins on a 4 pin plug with 1 pin missing. 

 

the part most makes mistakes when starting are the frontpanel connectors.. read your mainboard manual for that and compare what the plugs say from the case.. noone knows default setup here. as some board and cases does it different.  LED plugs only go in one way.. + and - is important so pay attention. 

 

for the AIO

intel needs 4 bolt/spacers.. it's usually a bag with 4 bolts/spacer marked intel if it's more bags marked intel.. look for one marked 1700, it's for the LGA 1700 that intel uses for 12-14 gen cpu's.. put the backplate on from the back and screw those 4 bolts/spacers in to secure it. .. you should do this before you mount your board into the case...  

if you forgot.... pull your board out and do it.. no way around it.. 

 

all board looks different, some smaller some larger BUT.. they ALL have a CPU_FAN header, read your mainboard manual to find an AIO_pump header.. or W_pump or fan header. 

for all the standoffs behind the board.. make sure you don't have more than you have holes in your board.. and those you have ALL correspond with a hole you can screw your mainboard to the case with. 

i usually mount it with focus on the IO plate inn first so it snaps in place if it's permanent on the mainboard.  some have loose IO plates you have to put in before the mainboard. 

 

 

 

[Blizzforte]

Can someone take a look at the video here. I did connect the three cables, but right after that step, one second after you click the link, there are several more steps. Can you help me out here? What do I do?

[Blizzforte]

The PC turns on, but the monitor doesn't turn on. GPU is glowing, RAM is, and motherboard. The AiO is also rotating, although no RGB light is on the pump. Mouse RGB lights up, but not the keyboard.

[Robchil]

51 minutes ago, Blizzforte said:

Can someone take a look at the video here. I did connect the three cables, but right after that step, one second after you click the link, there are several more steps. Can you help me out here? What do I do?

1. after the fans are connected together.. connect the end of that 3 way splitter to CPU_FAN header. 

2 connect the argb connectors from the fans AND the pump together and lock them with the brackets so they don't fall apart. and plug the splitter in the rainbow/argb port on your board. 

3 connect the aio pump pwm port to pump or AIO fan port on your board. 

after that is another setup if you have a controller with the package.