G Sync vs Uncapped FPS in Competitive games

[maka0]

For games like CSGO(CS2), Apex, etc...What is the best settings to use to have the least amount of input lag?

I understand how to use G Sync to obtain the least amount of input lag
-Enabled for Full Screen

-V Sync on (in NVIDIA control panel)
-Full screen (in game)
-Disable V Sync (in game)
-Limit FPS by minimum 3 FPS (in game, if not available via NVIDIA control panel)

-Use Reflex setting if available

 

Would uncapping FPS allow for less input lag and I will assume the trade off would be less smoothness?

I do like g sync when playing non FPS game titles, so if optimum input lag is uncapped I can just change the settings in the program tab in NVIDIA control panel to override the global settings.

Or is the input lag difference between g sync and uncapped so small it is barely noticeable? 

 

System: 5900x & RTX 3070 @ 165Hz 1440p  

[Brooksie359]

I mean it depends on how much fps you can get. I mean if you have a 144hz and can run the game at say 500 fps then running uncapped is going to be a significant boost as you are rendering a multiple frames between refresh intervals meaning every time the monitor refreshes the frame displayed is alot more up to date than if you had gsync or fps limiter. 

[191x7]

I run Freesync + Enhanced Sync. That's AMDish for G-Sync + Fast Sync.

 

The best settings would be replacing that 5900X with a 5800X3D.

 

Hope you're at least using PBO offset negative 15 or 20.

[maka0]

2 hours ago, 191x7 said:

I run Freesync + Enhanced Sync. That's AMDish for G-Sync + Fast Sync.

 

The best settings would be replacing that 5900X with a 5800X3D.

 

Hope you're at least using PBO offset negative 15 or 20.

I do not see the value in swapping out to a 5800x3D. They cost more than a 5900x and I play to wait for the next gen

 

I have a negative offset, majority of the cores are close to 15.

[Ebony Falcon]

If you can constantly achieve over your refresh rate, disabling Gsync altogether is the best option as it adds some input latency/ overhead 

also allowing the game to run at higher fps will reduce latency 

 

also cs2 is tickles server so higher the fps the better

[Mark Kaine]

i absolutely hate gsync, it makes everything lag...

 

i use *no* vsync but "fast sync" instead,  which locks my fps to 165 and there's no lag, no screen tearing...  gsync is really only for people who can't reach the framerate they want (a little placebo basically) everyone else uses fast sync =)

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

On 10/3/2023 at 1:02 AM, 191x7 said:

The best settings would be replacing that 5900X with a 5800X3D.

 

that makes no sense,  sorry.

[CaptainQuirk26]

This might actually surprise you, but your best option is to use CS: GO's console to limit your framerate to 66FPS. The reason why is that Source uses a tickrate system for its processing, which means that if your framerate is above the tickrate (which happens to be 66), the game will actually be running slightly behind your ticks so it can interpolate frames. If you limit the framerate to 66 (do this by typing "fps_max 66" into the console), the game will run in real-time and basically eliminate any input lag. As for G-Sync, don't trust it. It only works if your framerate is lower than the display, whereas you could just use V-Sync and handle the extra 3ms of input lag you get in Source (It's really well-designed). If you cap your framerate, that'll eliminate the other big source so you don't have to worry about it. Uhh, note that Source will usually run at one less than the framerate cap, so it'll probably oscillate between 65 and 66 FPS throughout gameplay. My advice: don't even worry about it.

 

After typing this I just realized that with CS: GO having been replaced by its evil doppelganger CS2, I have no idea if any of this still applies. Still, give it a shot.

[191x7]

On 10/3/2023 at 3:49 AM, maka0 said:

I do not see the value in swapping out to a 5800x3D. They cost more than a 5900x and I play to wait for the next gen

 

I have a negative offset, majority of the cores are close to 15.

The value standpoint is true. But the only way to get a smoother experience is to get the 5800X3D or to change the platform.

 

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

that makes no sense,  sorry.

Why would it make no sense? Did you swap from a 5900X to a 5800X3D like I did? Did you try the difference in games?

[Mark Kaine]

actually both is incredibly bad. just lock the framerate to your monitors refreshrate, use fast sync instead of vsync = best lagfree experience you can get (aside from probably awful steam servers lol)