New SFF-build

[Builder4050]

Budget (including currency): 25 000 sek or less

Country: Sweden

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Titles like Mindustry, Xcom, Civ, ARK. Programs like Photoshop and office stuff.

 

Other details: I'm not a big fps gamer, but I do like my 4k resolution so I need a GPU that will be able to render that, including large .MKV.

Want a machine that can hold its own for the coming years. 2TB fast SSD, Quiet(!) and a small form factor would be very nice. Is Mini ITX out of the picture if you want the most bang for the buck? Komplett.se has the Cooler Master NR200P case for 649:- at the moment and it's much smaller than my old Chieftec Dragon. Dust filters would be a good thing though. Low energy usage is always a +. I'm thinking quiet air cooling.

Will be able to reuse my old PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 750W, if you think it can handle the new system.

Will be buying this side of the year. Is it worth waiting for black friday or should I just go ahead now?

 

Don't really care about: RGB, plexi, visuals and noise. Comp will be placed out of sight.

 

 

 

Thank you for helping out, really appreciate it!

[Tetras]

I think this comes to approx 25,000 sek?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/8cJVwg

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (kr3262.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr659.90 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B760-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr2416.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  (kr1089.56 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr1200.32 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (kr7490.00 @ Webhallen) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P200A Performance Mini ITX Tower Case  (kr858.00 @ Proshop) 
Total: kr16975.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-30 14:41 CEST+0200

[Builder4050]

Thanks Tetras,

That comes to below 17k so almost too cheep

 

How come you would go for the Phantek Eclips case, it's better than the NR200P I take it?

My old PSU will do fine even if I choose a better CPU?

Anything else to improve here as I do have quite a bit left in the budget?

Anything than can make it less noisy?

 

 

[brob]

Your G2 PSU is 180mm long. It will not fit in most of the smaller mini-ITX cases.

 

The NR200P case requires an SFX PSU which is smaller than ATX.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (kr4904.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock TF 2 CPU Cooler  (kr1090.00 @ Webhallen) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B760I EDGE WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr2680.00 @ CDON SE) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (kr1560.00 @ CDON SE) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr1816.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (kr7190.00 @ Webhallen) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200P Mini ITX Desktop Case  (kr649.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF1000L 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (kr2507.63 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Total: kr22396.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-30 18:58 CEST+0200

[Tetras]

18 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

That comes to below 17k so almost too cheep

Oh, did I make a mistake? Is it because I converted the wrong currency? I did KR to SEK in Google and it said 17000 kr was 25000 sek.

 

20 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

How come you would go for the Phantek Eclips case, it's better than the NR200P I take it?

No, it is basically because I was too lazy to learn all the dimensions for a new case, because with SFF cases you have to be really careful that everything (CPU cooler, graphics card length/width, motherboard and PSU format/length) fits in the case and even when you check those dimensions, sometimes one of the parts can impact the other parts, for example: if you fit a PSU that is too long it can take space that the CPU cooler uses, or something annoying like this...

 

24 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Anything else to improve here as I do have quite a bit left in the budget?

Honestly, it is quite a good fit for a case that size, the 13500 and 4070 are both fairly energy efficient and not too difficult to cool.

 

Here's an alternative for the full budget, main change is the graphics card and a micro-atx case:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZfBbKX

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (kr3240.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr659.90 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr2131.48 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  (kr1089.56 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr1276.00 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (kr15473.43 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (kr799.00 @ CDON SE) 
Total: kr24669.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-30 19:06 CEST+0200

[Builder4050]

Hey! A big thank you to both brob and Tetras!

 

I picked throw you partlists and came up with this, what do you think?

Kept my PSU and went with the Phantek case where I believe it will fit and I'll save quite a bit, upgraded CPU and SSD. Will the cooler be able to handle CPU (PCPartpicer warns me possible comparability issues w/ mobo)? Maybe I should change the memory to brob's suggestion G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory?

Any suggestions or improvements?

 

Thanks, really appreciate it!

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/yZ6sL9

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (kr5490.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr659.90 @ Amazon Sweden)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B760-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr2416.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  (kr1089.56 @ Amazon Sweden)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr2017.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (kr7490.00 @ Webhallen)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P200A Performance Mini ITX Tower Case  (kr858.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr20020.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-30 20:33 CEST+0200

[Tetras]

24 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Will the cooler be able to handle CPU (PCPartpicer warns me possible comparability issues w/ mobo)?

I think it would depend if:

1. You run the CPU power limited.
2. If you mainly game and do single-core/thread oriented stuff.

If the 13700K is run power unlimited in heavily multithreaded apps, it is a monster CPU that really needs a decent AIO.

 

In TPU's review of the 13700K, they used a Noctua NH-U14S for temperature testing and while gaming temps were fine (73 degrees), in blender the CPU hit 100 degrees at stock settings.

 

29 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Kept my PSU and went with the Phantek case where I believe it will fit and I'll save quite a bit

It has a top-mounted PSU I believe (strange, but true), so can support standard ATX PSUs. Part of the cost of this compatibility, is that the case dimensions are not very small.

 

For example, the dimensions of:

• Phanteks 200A (ITX): 205 x 365 x 400
• Lian Li 205M (MATX): 210 x 402.5 x 400
• Aerocool Trinity Mini (MATX): 206.5 x 353.4 x 385

 

35 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr2017.00 @ Amazon Sweden)

I'm not sure where the second M.2 slot is located, but I believe the primary M.2 slot of the Strix B760I already has a heatsink?

 

36 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (kr7490.00 @ Webhallen)

Before you buy a 4070 you may want to check HUB's roundup, here: 

 

 

TPU reviewed lots of them too, which you can find listed here:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA/RTX-4070/

 

The warranty lengths may also be different in Sweden.

[brob]

40 minutes ago, Builder4050 said:

Hey! A big thank you to both brob and Tetras!

 

I picked throw you partlists and came up with this, what do you think?

Kept my PSU and went with the Phantek case where I believe it will fit and I'll save quite a bit, upgraded CPU and SSD. Will the cooler be able to handle CPU (PCPartpicer warns me possible comparability issues w/ mobo)? Maybe I should change the memory to brob's suggestion G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory?

Any suggestions or improvements?

 

Thanks, really appreciate it!

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/yZ6sL9

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (kr5490.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr659.90 @ Amazon Sweden)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B760-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr2416.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
Memory: Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  (kr1089.56 @ Amazon Sweden)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr2017.00 @ Amazon Sweden)
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (kr7490.00 @ Webhallen)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P200A Performance Mini ITX Tower Case  (kr858.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr20020.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-30 20:33 CEST+0200

 

There is room in the case for a full size CPU cooler. Consider something like the AK620.

 

I'm not a fan of using an unlocked CPU with a locked motherboard.