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Motherboard hole placement in larger than ATX nonstandard sizes

Does anyone here happen to know if the hole placement for E-ATX motherboards or other varieties of nonstandard large motherboards is the same as it is for ATX motherboards? 

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Depends on the motherboard. Most of them are, yes, but when you get to some of the comically large boards like the ROG Dominus Extreme or EVGA Classified SR2 then they can start using extra non-ATX screws and form factors like SSI-EEB. 

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Yes, the main difference is typically that the board itself is wider than a standard ATX board.

 

The issue with eATX and other larger motherboard sizes is that until you get up to SSI-EEB, CEB, and MEB, there's basically no standardization whatsoever in terms of dimensions, so some cases will fit some eATX boards but not others. There is very little consistency for motherboards between ATX and SSI-EEB.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3566-e-atx-is-a-lie-vs-xl-atx-eeb-ceb

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2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Depends on the motherboard. Most of them are, yes, but when you get to some of the comically large boards like the ROG Dominus Extreme or EVGA Classified SR2 then they can start using extra non-ATX screws and form factors like SSI-EEB. 

Those boards are listed as EEB and HPTX respectively. They are not listed as E-ATX.

 

Even though E-ATX is not a defined size the manufacturers use it to indicate that the screw holes are the same as ATX with the board being wider.

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3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Depends on the motherboard. Most of them are, yes, but when you get to some of the comically large boards like the ROG Dominus Extreme or EVGA Classified SR2 then they can start using extra non-ATX screws and form factors like SSI-EEB. 

so, in those edge cases do you think at least 3 or 4 holes might match up or would the layout be completely different?

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2 minutes ago, cleric_warlock said:

so, in those edge cases do you think at least 3 or 4 holes might match up or would the layout be completely different?

The standard 9 screw holes should line up, there are just 3 that are different. 

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Usually EATX are just wider than ATX ... rarely they're also a bit longer vertically, maybe one extra slot worth of vertical space

Majority of motherboards will keep the screw holes in the same locations as ATX and have extra screw holes on the right edge, but you can use nylon spacers or other methods to make sure the board doesn't flex and touches the metal of the case.

Just be sure the motherboard doesn't have bumps or some stupid shapes to the back plate that could block the motherboard.

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2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The standard 9 screw holes should line up, there are just 3 that are different. 

awesome, so even if the mount isn't perfect it looks like even those larger nonstandard boards will be securable to my testbench

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    G.Skill Ripjaws DDR5-6000 MT/s, 2 x 32GB, (CL30-40-40-96, 1.40V), F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K for heavy multitasking
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