GPU and Monitor upgrade!

[stanzlavos]

Hi All

 

My current setup:

 

Proc        : AMD 5950x

Mobo      : Asus ROG Crosshair VIII dark hero

RAM        : 2 x 16GB DDR4 G Skill 3600 C16

GPU        : GTX 1080

Display   : Acer XB271HU

 

Primary use : Gaming + Work (Gaming is "seasonal" - spending more time on the console these days but desktop gaming days will definitely come!)

 

I had upgraded the Mobo/Proc/RAM (over a year ago) and kept the GPU. I am planning on upgrading the monitor and GPU and I had a few queries:

 

1) GPU --> Have been using my 1080 for 7 years now. This purchase would most likely last for a similar timeframe - so thinking of going big - a 4090 maybe.

• The cheapest 2 options for me are: the 4090 FE (~1920 USD) and the Zotac Trinity (~1990 USD) - BTW, I am from India.
  • After some research, I see that the FE has better VRMs. Performance wise, I am assuming they wouldn't be too different ? The concern is if the FE would be louder than the 3 fan Zotac.
  • I have Corsair 1000RMi power supply. Should be able to handle a 4090 ? Need to just buy a 12VHPWR cable (or does that come with the GPU ?) ?
• The 7900 XTX costs, on an average, around 1275 USD (haven't looked much into this, but I see an Gigabyte Gaming OC, MSI Gaming Trio Classic etc.)
  • Is the extra cost for the 4090 worth it ? I know, a very subjective question....

2) Display --> Thinking of going ultra-wide, but, very difficult to get one of those in India! 

• Have shortlisted two options : the 38" Dell AW3821DW and the 49" Samsung CRG9 (both costs around the same - ~1475 USD)
  • For the same price, which is the better option ?
• OLED/QD-OLED --> The 34" Dell AW3423DW and the 34" Samsung OLED G8(a bit more expensive) are in the same price range. The 34" Dell AW3423DWF is a little cheaper.
  • I am concerned about their longevity! My XB271HU is working perfectly fine after 7 years - will an OLED/QD-OLED last that long without burn-in ?
  • Also, 38" somehow seems "better" than 34".  The AW3821DW is also a bit taller ?

Help! 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

GPU --> Have been using my 1080 for 7 years now. This purchase would most likely last for a similar timeframe - so thinking of going big - a 4090 maybe.

• The cheapest 2 options for me are: the 4090 FE (~1920 USD) and the Zotac Trinity (~1990 USD) - BTW, I am from India.
  • After some research, I see that the FE has better VRMs. Performance wise, I am assuming they wouldn't be too different ? The concern is if the FE would be louder than the 3 fan Zotac.
  • I have Corsair 1000RMi power supply. Should be able to handle a 4090 ? Need to just buy a 12VHPWR cable (or does that come with the GPU ?) ?
• The 7900 XTX costs, on an average, around 1275 USD (haven't looked much into this, but I see an Gigabyte Gaming OC, MSI Gaming Trio Classic etc.)
  • Is the extra cost for the 4090 worth it ? I know, a very subjective question....

IMO the extra cost for the 4090 is not worth it. Also you will have more of a bottleneck with a 4090 at 4k than you will with a 7900 xtx

I say go for the 7900 xtx (its also much cheaper)

5 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

Display --> Thinking of going ultra-wide, but, very difficult to get one of those in India! 

• Have shortlisted two options : the 38" Dell AW3821DW and the 49" Samsung CRG9 (both costs around the same - ~1475 USD)
  • For the same price, which is the better option ?
• OLED/QD-OLED --> The 34" Dell AW3423DW and the 34" Samsung OLED G8(a bit more expensive) are in the same price range. The 34" Dell AW3423DWF is a little cheaper.
  • I am concerned about their longevity! My XB271HU is working perfectly fine after 7 years - will an OLED/QD-OLED last that long without burn-in ?
  • Also, 38" somehow seems "better" than 34".  The AW3821DW is also a bit taller ?

You don't need to go ultrawide, you could get an OLED as they're pixel response times are incredible

For the same price the Samsung might be better as its pixel response times are closer to that of an OLED's 

But if the Alienware DWF is about 100 bucks or more cheaper I would go with that as its a pretty big difference

Btw QD-OLED's don't get too much burn in compared to OLED's. Are you looking at a lot of static pictures (such as excel worksheets) when you're working?

[SorryBella]

11 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

AW3423DWF

This is the way.

 

12 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

• The cheapest 2 options for me are: the 4090 FE (~1920 USD) and the Zotac Trinity (~1990 USD) - BTW, I am from India.
• The 7900 XTX costs, on an average, around 1275 USD (haven't looked much into this, but I see an Gigabyte Gaming OC, MSI Gaming Trio Classic etc.)
  • Is the extra cost for the 4090 worth it ? I know, a very subjective question....

Unless if you need CUDA or you play games with RTX on, no not really. The raw rasterization power of 7900XTX is at an earshot for that little and the power consumption profiles are almost the same. For the AIB i cant comment much right now but the Zotac is shockingly well designed for the cost. But the Founders Edition cooler still goes pretty well.

 

14 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

I have Corsair 1000RMi power supply. Should be able to handle a 4090 ? Need to just buy a 12VHPWR cable (or does that come with the GPU ?) ?

Just like the 3000 series, Nvidia and AIBs provide adapters with it. Ideally it branches out to 3x8 or even 4x8 pin pcie, but 2x8 is also common. Getting an ATX 3.0 PSU with a dedicated 12VHPWR connector is cool and all but not necessary.

[PDifolco]

54 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

Hi All

 

My current setup:

 

Proc        : AMD 5950x

Mobo      : Asus ROG Crosshair VIII dark hero

RAM        : 2 x 16GB DDR4 G Skill 3600 C16

GPU        : GTX 1080

Display   : Acer XB271HU

 

Primary use : Gaming + Work (Gaming is "seasonal" - spending more time on the console these days but desktop gaming days will definitely come!)

 

I had upgraded the Mobo/Proc/RAM (over a year ago) and kept the GPU. I am planning on upgrading the monitor and GPU and I had a few queries:

 

1) GPU --> Have been using my 1080 for 7 years now. This purchase would most likely last for a similar timeframe - so thinking of going big - a 4090 maybe.

• The cheapest 2 options for me are: the 4090 FE (~1920 USD) and the Zotac Trinity (~1990 USD) - BTW, I am from India.
  • After some research, I see that the FE has better VRMs. Performance wise, I am assuming they wouldn't be too different ? The concern is if the FE would be louder than the 3 fan Zotac.
  • I have Corsair 1000RMi power supply. Should be able to handle a 4090 ? Need to just buy a 12VHPWR cable (or does that come with the GPU ?) ?
• The 7900 XTX costs, on an average, around 1275 USD (haven't looked much into this, but I see an Gigabyte Gaming OC, MSI Gaming Trio Classic etc.)
  • Is the extra cost for the 4090 worth it ? I know, a very subjective question....

2) Display --> Thinking of going ultra-wide, but, very difficult to get one of those in India! 

• Have shortlisted two options : the 38" Dell AW3821DW and the 49" Samsung CRG9 (both costs around the same - ~1475 USD)
  • For the same price, which is the better option ?
• OLED/QD-OLED --> The 34" Dell AW3423DW and the 34" Samsung OLED G8(a bit more expensive) are in the same price range. The 34" Dell AW3423DWF is a little cheaper.
  • I am concerned about their longevity! My XB271HU is working perfectly fine after 7 years - will an OLED/QD-OLED last that long without burn-in ?
  • Also, 38" somehow seems "better" than 34".  The AW3821DW is also a bit taller ?

Help! 

Well, with a 5950X if you go Ultrawide 1440p you 'll be CPU bottlenecked on a 4090, the 7900XTX is the best the CPU can (near) fully use

So if you go 4090 rather go 4K monitor as well

[stanzlavos]

On 6/2/2023 at 12:36 PM, filpo said:

IMO the extra cost for the 4090 is not worth it. Also you will have more of a bottleneck with a 4090 at 4k than you will with a 7900 xtx

I say go for the 7900 xtx (its also much cheaper)

You don't need to go ultrawide, you could get an OLED as they're pixel response times are incredible

For the same price the Samsung might be better as its pixel response times are closer to that of an OLED's 

But if the Alienware DWF is about 100 bucks or more cheaper I would go with that as its a pretty big difference

Btw QD-OLED's don't get too much burn in compared to OLED's. Are you looking at a lot of static pictures (such as excel worksheets) when you're working?

Hey, sorry for the late response - got busy with some personal stuff!

 

1) If I go 4k, then maybe consider the 4090 ? Or, with the 1440p ultra wide, how about a 4080 ? - Costs about the same as a 7900 XTX.

2) I think I'll take the OLEDs/QD-OLEDs out.  Not sure if I'd be "comfortable" with those! So, 38" Dell AW3821DW OR the 49" Samsung CRG9 ? Also, if I go the CRG9 route, does the 4090 make sense ?

 

The thing about the 4090, as I was thinking, is - going forward, as games becomes more demanding, even on a 1440p monitor, would the 4090 be a better option ?

[stanzlavos]

On 6/2/2023 at 12:42 PM, SorryClaire said:

This is the way.

 

Unless if you need CUDA or you play games with RTX on, no not really. The raw rasterization power of 7900XTX is at an earshot for that little and the power consumption profiles are almost the same. For the AIB i cant comment much right now but the Zotac is shockingly well designed for the cost. But the Founders Edition cooler still goes pretty well.

 

Just like the 3000 series, Nvidia and AIBs provide adapters with it. Ideally it branches out to 3x8 or even 4x8 pin pcie, but 2x8 is also common. Getting an ATX 3.0 PSU with a dedicated 12VHPWR connector is cool and all but not necessary.

Not so confident going the OLED/QD-OLED route...

[stanzlavos]

On 6/2/2023 at 1:21 PM, PDifolco said:

Well, with a 5950X if you go Ultrawide 1440p you 'll be CPU bottlenecked on a 4090, the 7900XTX is the best the CPU can (near) fully use

So if you go 4090 rather go 4K monitor as well

OK. How about the CRG9 - more pixels to drive ?

[PDifolco]

8 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

OK. How about the CRG9 - more pixels to drive ?

It's super ultrawide 5120x1440p, nearly as many pixels than 4K (7.3M to 8.3), so yes it'll prevent CPU bottlenecks 

[stanzlavos]

28 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

It's super ultrawide 5120x1440p, nearly as many pixels than 4K (7.3M to 8.3), so yes it'll prevent CPU bottlenecks 

Any opinion on the "Acer Predator Cg437K" ? (~485 USD)

[stanzlavos]

A small summary:

 

1) Not considering OLED/QD-OLED monitors.

2) 4090 if going the CRG9 (~1475 USD) or Acer Predator Cg437K (~485 USD) route

•  Anyone using any of these monitors ? Would love to know the practicality of these big monitors (table space isn't a problem).

2) 7900 XTX if going for: Dell AW3821DW (~1475 USD) or Acer Predator X34GS (~850 USD)

• Anyone using the Acer Predator X34GS ?
• RTX 4080 instead of 7900 XTX ? - Same price range.

 

[stanzlavos]

I forgot to mention one thing : I will be editing photos!

 

I think that the Acer Predator Cg437K (~485 USD) and Acer Predator X34GS (~850 USD) are factory color calibrated.

 

Acer Predator Cg437K --> Seems to be the older "P" variant without HDMI 2.1. I am still not sure why it is priced at ~485 USD though - goes for around 1000 USD on "amazon.com".

[stanzlavos]

Bump...

 

Anyone using these monitors ?