build New PC build - 2k 144FPS

[TheJudge91]

Budget (including currency): € 2000,00 (± 10%)

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming - target 2k 144FPS

Other details

i would love to have a build that can be upgraded "easily" for the next 6/8 years (maybe with new cpu and gpu).

i don't have any preferences about AMD/Intel or AMD/NVidia. Just want performance!

Plus (not mandatory): i would have a white-themed PC.

 

PS: I don't need monitor, keyboard and mouse

[filpo]

23 minutes ago, TheJudge91 said:

Budget (including currency): € 2000,00 (± 10%)

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming - target 2k 144FPS

Other details

i would love to have a build that can be upgraded "easily" for the next 6/8 years (maybe with new cpu and gpu).

i don't have any preferences about AMD/Intel or AMD/NVidia. Just want performance!

Plus (not mandatory): i would have a white-themed PC.

 

PS: I don't need monitor, keyboard and mouse

good price to performance https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/G3xjTn

[Bombastinator]

The only motherboard type that has any potential for “legs” atm is am5.  (And it’s only potential.  AMD could just decide they want to change the mobo for their next series. The only other options are lga1700 and am4 though and both of those are EOL, so it’s more or less the only game in town atm for what you want) So an am5 board with good VRM.  Something like this maybe?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€349.84 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€189.52 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€193.83 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€251.68 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX RX-79TMBABF9 Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€849.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Tecware Forge M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€49.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic B12 BC 850 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€98.74 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2025.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 10:06 CET+0100

 

It might wind up needing some fans.  I don’t know much about that case.  If it does there are  decent ons available for about €15 per though so it won’t impact the budget much

Edited March 20, 2023 by Bombastinator

[SorryBella]

50 minutes ago, TheJudge91 said:

Budget (including currency): € 2000,00 (± 10%)

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming - target 2k 144FPS

Other details

i would love to have a build that can be upgraded "easily" for the next 6/8 years (maybe with new cpu and gpu).

i don't have any preferences about AMD/Intel or AMD/NVidia. Just want performance!

Plus (not mandatory): i would have a white-themed PC.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€74.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650 PRO RS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€244.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Black 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€134.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: KIOXIA EXCERIA G2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€113.51 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1227.90 @ Alternate Italia) 
Case: BitFenix NOVA MESH SE TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€121.01 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2236.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 10:06 CET+0100

 

GPUs hard to find in Italy specific market, but i wouldve gone for Gigabyte Aero 4080 at that price.

[Bombastinator]

Both of the above are basically 4k systems that will rip the heck out of 1440p.  The first one has more processor and less video card the other one has the reverse.  Either would work. Everything is modular so one could mix and match freely.  It would be possible to lowball the video card even further and upgrade later if needed.  Basically the key feature here is a strong am5 motherboard and some decent memory.  You could go as low as a 3070 with the video card and be more or less fine for a while.  I was counting cooler by pipes and stacks. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Bombastinator

[TheJudge91]

Thanks all for the fast replies.

here my consideration:

4 hours ago, filpo said:

good price to performance https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/G3xjTn

Love the white-themed and the double disk (that i can take from my actual build)

 

4 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

The only motherboard type that has any potential for “legs” atm is am5.  (And it’s only potential.  AMD could just decide they want to change the mobo for their next series. The only other options are lga1700 and am4 though and both of those are EOL, so it’s more or less the only game in town atm for what you want) So an am5 board with good VRM.  Something like this maybe?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€349.84 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€189.52 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€193.83 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€251.68 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX RX-79TMBABF9 Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€849.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Tecware Forge M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€49.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic B12 BC 850 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€98.74 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2025.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 10:06 CET+0100

 

It might wind up needing some fans.  I don’t know much about that case.  If it does there are  decent ons available for about €15 per though so it won’t impact the budget much

Love the fact that is micro ATX. i never had one before and in all my builds that i had i never used the other PCI other then the one for the GPU.

My biggest concern is that i have less potential upgrades (the ram speed is up to 6200MHz instead of 7200Mhz of a "standard" ATX), less M2 slots (not a big deal) and the air-flow can be more difficult (???)
 

4 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€74.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650 PRO RS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€244.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Black 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€134.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: KIOXIA EXCERIA G2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€113.51 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1227.90 @ Alternate Italia) 
Case: BitFenix NOVA MESH SE TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€121.01 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2236.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 10:06 CET+0100

 

GPUs hard to find in Italy specific market, but i wouldve gone for Gigabyte Aero 4080 at that price.

The gigabyte aero 4080 is gorgeus but does the 4080 have some pins problem (melting, burning,)?

 

Here my ideas, using all your hint. What do you think? Consideration?
 

Micro ATX build

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/CzkPC6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€189.52 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€127.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2277.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:17 CET+0100

 

 

i'm worry about the case + XTX dimension, but it seems that it fits.

 

 

"Standard" ATX build: (i know that is a bit over my own budget but i thnik that i can get some deal on some of these parts)

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/LsnJKp

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€277.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2319.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:22 CET+0100

 

 

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, TheJudge91 said:

Here my ideas, using all your hint. What do you think? Consideration?

Youre a fast learner. Preem.

 

Both build is definitely great but 1TB on new build to me is not quite enough nowadays with how verbose and uncompressed game texture datas become. 2TB would be my pick in here for bit of overbudget, but if you are thinking of later expansion then feel free.

[Bombastinator]

3 hours ago, TheJudge91 said:

Thanks all for the fast replies.

here my consideration:

Love the white-themed and the double disk (that i can take from my actual build)

 

Love the fact that is micro ATX. i never had one before and in all my builds that i had i never used the other PCI other then the one for the GPU.

My biggest concern is that i have less potential upgrades (the ram speed is up to 6200MHz instead of 7200Mhz of a "standard" ATX), less M2 slots (not a big deal) and the air-flow can be more difficult (???)
 

The gigabyte aero 4080 is gorgeus but does the 4080 have some pins problem (melting, burning,)?

 

Here my ideas, using all your hint. What do you think? Consideration?
 

Micro ATX build

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/CzkPC6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€189.52 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€127.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2277.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:17 CET+0100

 

 

i'm worry about the case + XTX dimension, but it seems that it fits.

 

 

"Standard" ATX build: (i know that is a bit over my own budget but i thnik that i can get some deal on some of these parts)

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/LsnJKp

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€277.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2319.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:22 CET+0100

 

 

I’ve never seen an issue with heat.  That might come from people building some REALLY small cases for matx the one I marked is a regular case, just a bit shorter.    You can fit matx in atx cases.  The board just doesn’t reach the bottom. Matx boards and cases are generally cheaper.  I’ve found that with the new avoidance of multiple GPUs, full atx just isn’t as useful as it used to be while itx tends to have space problems.  I’ve got an matx board in a core21 which is something of an airflow monster.

[TheJudge91]

17 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

Youre a fast learner. Preem.

 

Both build is definitely great but 1TB on new build to me is not quite enough nowadays with how verbose and uncompressed game texture datas become. 2TB would be my pick in here for bit of overbudget, but if you are thinking of later expansion then feel free.

Thank you!

i'm the kind of person that uninstall games after a while or when i complete them, so i need around 250/300 GB for my games. Anyway, i think you are right and 2TB is actually a better option.

 

16 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I’ve never seen an issue with heat.  That might come from people building some REALLY small cases for matx the one I marked is a regular case, just a bit shorter.    You can fit matx in atx cases.  The board just doesn’t reach the bottom. Matx boards and cases are generally cheaper.  I’ve found that with the new avoidance of multiple GPUs, full atx just isn’t as useful as it used to be while itx tends to have space problems.  I’ve got an matx board in a core21 which is something of an airflow monster.

Ok, perfect. But if i do a matx i want a matx case too  

for the melting pins i'm refearring to the power connector  

 

Anyway, thanks you all for the support!!!

 

I decided to build my first matx build, whish me luck  

Hope to give you some updates when i will start the build!

 

 

[filpo]

20 hours ago, TheJudge91 said:

Thanks all for the fast replies.

here my consideration:

Love the white-themed and the double disk (that i can take from my actual build)

 

Love the fact that is micro ATX. i never had one before and in all my builds that i had i never used the other PCI other then the one for the GPU.

My biggest concern is that i have less potential upgrades (the ram speed is up to 6200MHz instead of 7200Mhz of a "standard" ATX), less M2 slots (not a big deal) and the air-flow can be more difficult (???)
 

The gigabyte aero 4080 is gorgeus but does the 4080 have some pins problem (melting, burning,)?

 

Here my ideas, using all your hint. What do you think? Consideration?
 

Micro ATX build

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/CzkPC6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€189.52 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€127.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2277.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:17 CET+0100

 

 

i'm worry about the case + XTX dimension, but it seems that it fits.

 

 

"Standard" ATX build: (i know that is a bit over my own budget but i thnik that i can get some deal on some of these parts)

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/LsnJKp

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€252.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB 62 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€76.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€277.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€188.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 SFX GOLD 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (€158.38 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2319.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-20 14:22 CET+0100

 

 

7600 is a better cpu than 7600x in terms of power budget and thermals and much easier to cool with no performance hit. link to ltt vid on it down below#

 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, TheJudge91 said:

Thank you!

i'm the kind of person that uninstall games after a while or when i complete them, so i need around 250/300 GB for my games. Anyway, i think you are right and 2TB is actually a better option.

 

Ok, perfect. But if i do a matx i want a matx case too  

for the melting pins i'm refearring to the power connector  

 

Anyway, thanks you all for the support!!!

 

I decided to build my first matx build, whish me luck  

Hope to give you some updates when i will start the build!

 

 

There are some pretty cool matx cases out there.  I think they’re the main advantage really. With most matx boards you get 3 slots: a 16, a 4, and a 1.  Sometimes there are only two or even just one

[TheJudge91]

2 hours ago, filpo said:

7600 is a better cpu than 7600x in terms of power budget and thermals and much easier to cool with no performance hit. link to ltt vid on it down below#

 

Thank you for the info!!!

 

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

There are some pretty cool matx cases out there.  I think they’re the main advantage really. With most matx boards you get 3 slots: a 16, a 4, and a 1.  Sometimes there are only two or even just one

I choose the Fractal Design Pop Mini Air because:

a) it is white

b) it seems to be a good quality/price case

c) it can handle big GPU, up to 365mm

 

Do you have any other suggestion?

[filpo]

Just now, TheJudge91 said:

Thank you for the info!!!

 

I choose the Fractal Design Pop Mini Air because:

a) it is white

b) it seems to be a good quality/price case

c) it can handle big GPU, up to 365mm

 

Do you have any other suggestion?

For case if you want to go atx the h5 flow is a good budget case or even the atx pop air is a good case as well. Or 5000d or 4000d airflow from corsair. Any of these are good cases. 4000d and h5 flow for more smaller 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, TheJudge91 said:

it is white

 

Just now, filpo said:

For case if you want to go atx the h5 flow is a good budget case or even the atx pop air is a good case as well. Or 5000d or 4000d airflow from corsair. Any of these are good cases. 4000d and h5 flow for more smaller 

 Btw you can get all these cases in white for the same price as their black equivalents

[TheJudge91]

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

 

 Btw you can get all these cases in white for the same price as their black equivalents

As i said before, if i go for a matx mobo i want a matx case too. 

Probably i'm missing something, but i don't get the point to put a matx mobo into an atx case  

 

edit: * over than the price of the mobo ofc. But it is not the case.

[filpo]

46 minutes ago, TheJudge91 said:

As i said before, if i go for a matx mobo i want a matx case too. 

Probably i'm missing something, but i don't get the point to put a matx mobo into an atx case  

 

edit: * over than the price of the mobo ofc. But it is not the case.

oh ok nvm then

[Bombastinator]

Matx is on the larger end of SFF, so there are some unusual and potentially useful form factors that don appear in atx because they just create something that is too big (there is a version of the core21 for atx but it’s huge.  It reaches mini fridge proportions)