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Shadowwolf102

Hi all!  I'm looking for some suggestions on what to do regarding an upgrade to my system.  I normally just do a complete rebuild of my gaming rig every 4 years.  Next winter would be my normal upgrade cycle, but during this pc cycle, my monitors died and I ended up getting some pretty nice (for the money) 32" 4k monitors.  Unfortunately, this system (specifically my reliable 2070 Super) struggles with higher detail games.  I've been thinking of upgrading the card first, this spring, and do the rest around the holidays.  However, given the state of the GPU market, I'm wondering if I should just tough it out until my normal rebuild in about 10 months and see if prices come down or just bite the bullet.  I would probably look at the 4080 if it was in the 800-900 range (I don't play a lot of Ray Traced games, but when I do I like to have it on), but I find any graphics card that is priced at the same amount I would spend on EVERY OTHER COMPONENT COMBINED to be an insane and untenable scenario.  Thoughts on this conundrum?  And if I do bite the bullet, what should I look to get?  (Note that I have 2 monitors at 4k so probably need a beefier card)

 

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AMD Ryzen 3700X

64GB RAM

MSI nVidia 2070 Super

850W PSU

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No sense wasting money for only a few months usage when you can simply play at 1080p

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3700X might bottleneck 4080 in 4K, especially on some games that are either horribly optimized or CPU intensive.

The problem with 3700x is it's slow single core performance, and gaming favors faster single core.

But, 4080 in 800-900 range is a dream, that's 4070Ti territory.

 

I'd find used 6950 XT or even new one, cheaper than 4070 TI but a bit faster, yes RT performance is lacking, but while playing the game could you even tell if RT is on? Unless you look for it specifically, you won't, because the effects are rather subtle.

If you insist on RT, then in 800-900 range 4070Ti is your only choice.

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11 minutes ago, Shadowwolf102 said:

Hi all!  I'm looking for some suggestions on what to do regarding an upgrade to my system.  I normally just do a complete rebuild of my gaming rig every 4 years.  Next winter would be my normal upgrade cycle, but during this pc cycle, my monitors died and I ended up getting some pretty nice (for the money) 32" 4k monitors.  Unfortunately, this system (specifically my reliable 2070 Super) struggles with higher detail games.  I've been thinking of upgrading the card first, this spring, and do the rest around the holidays.  However, given the state of the GPU market, I'm wondering if I should just tough it out until my normal rebuild in about 10 months and see if prices come down or just bite the bullet.  I would probably look at the 4080 if it was in the 800-900 range (I don't play a lot of Ray Traced games, but when I do I like to have it on), but I find any graphics card that is priced at the same amount I would spend on EVERY OTHER COMPONENT COMBINED to be an insane and untenable scenario.  Thoughts on this conundrum?  And if I do bite the bullet, what should I look to get?  (Note that I have 2 monitors at 4k so probably need a beefier card)

 

Relevant specs

AMD Ryzen 3700X

64GB RAM

MSI nVidia 2070 Super

850W PSU

Your cpu might become a bottelneck even at 4k i had a 8700k and bought a 4080 ended up upgrading my cpu aswell since in games like cyberpunk when having discord and stuff in the background my cpu was 100% and i was losing Performance pretty sure a 3700x is not that much better then my 8700k was so eh only buying a 4080 is prob not gonne work out that great aswell 

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The 3700X is going to bottleneck a high end card. But since you're going to upgrade the rest of the system during the year, get the strongest GPU you can.

For 4K the minimum I'd recommend is a card in the RTX 3080, RTX 4070Ti, RX 6800 range, while I would strongly advise an RX 6950XT, 7900XT, RTX 3090ti or RTX 4080.

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Thanks for the tips all!  I will hold off since the CPU would be a bottle neck until that was upgraded as well and do everything at once like normal.  Although I work in IT, so I'm used to upgrading one thing and then just moving the bottleneck somewhere else.  LOL.  Hopefully prices come down over the year a bit on the GPU side and maybe I move my rebuild up to late summer instead of late fall to get that 4k goodness a little bit sooner.

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2 minutes ago, Shadowwolf102 said:

Thanks for the tips all!  I will hold off since the CPU would be a bottle neck until that was upgraded as well and do everything at once like normal.  Although I work in IT, so I'm used to upgrading one thing and then just moving the bottleneck somewhere else.  LOL.  Hopefully prices come down over the year a bit on the GPU side and maybe I move my rebuild up to late summer instead of late fall to get that 4k goodness a little bit sooner.

Or you can get a Ryzen 5800X3D, put it in the same system, new CPU-s don't outperform it in 4K gaming, and put in any GPU you want. Then you can wait a year or two with upgrades, maybe a Ryzen 7 8700X3D lol.

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I'd just game in single screen and use DLSS or NIS to play games at 1440p upscaled to 4k. 2070 Super is enough to handle that, especially if the monitor supports FreeSync. I wouldn't touch the 4080, 7900 XTX, nor 4090 right now at these ridiculous prices.

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1 hour ago, Dukesilver27- said:

3700X might bottleneck 4080 in 4K, especially on some games that are either horribly optimized or CPU intensive.

The problem with 3700x is it's slow single core performance, and gaming favors faster single core.

But, 4080 in 800-900 range is a dream, that's 4070Ti territory.

 

I'd find used 6950 XT or even new one, cheaper than 4070 TI but a bit faster, yes RT performance is lacking, but while playing the game could you even tell if RT is on? Unless you look for it specifically, you won't, because the effects are rather subtle.

If you insist on RT, then in 800-900 range 4070Ti is your only choice.

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx6950xt-ocf-16g/p/N82E16814930073?quicklink=true

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