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Will there by any difference between DDR4-3200 CL16 RAM and DDR-3600 CL16 RAM with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D?

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Hey guys & gals,

 

Back in 2020 when I built my current PC I picked out a Ryzen 5 3600 to power it and multiple resources recommended DDR4-3600 CL16 RAM as the "sweet spot" option, so I went with a 16GB kit (2x8GB) and dropped it into my motherboard.

 

Keep in mind I'm not doing any sort of overclocking outside of picking out the proper XMP speed in my BIOS.

 

Fast forward to 2022 and I've recently upgraded to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. I've heard through the proverbial grapevine that the 3D's extra cache memory makes it less reliant on system RAM speed & latency.

 

I have a 32GB kit of DDR-3200 CL16 RAM left over from another project and I'm thinking of replacing my current RAM with it. Would I see any performance decrease in going from my 16GB kit of 3600/CL16 RAM to 32GB of 3200/CL16 RAM, or should I just stick with the 3600 RAM for now and wait it out to upgrade to 32GB of that same speed in the future?

 

Thanks.

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Whatever is on your motherboards QVL is what you should go with honestly. Ive had quite the nightmare of a time dealing with the x570 Aorus Masters QVL for 32 GB ramkits of 3600, Theres pretty much only the Crucial Ballistix (With was killed off in FEB) and a few other kits that are also Out of stock.

 

As long as it works on your board, stick to what works.

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Due to the huge L3 cache the 5800x3d is the only Zen3 processor which isn't affected by RAM speeds. Stick with your old RAM.

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8 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Due to the huge L3 cache the 5800x3d is the only Zen3 processor which isn't affected by RAM speeds. Stick with your old RAM.

Keeping mind here that the 16GB 3600/16 is the "old" RAM, and the 32GB 3200/16 is the "new" RAM, are you still recommending sticking with the old?

 

  

9 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Whatever is on your motherboards QVL is what you should go with honestly. Ive had quite the nightmare of a time dealing with the x570 Aorus Masters QVL for 32 GB ramkits of 3600, Theres pretty much only the Crucial Ballistix (With was killed off in FEB) and a few other kits that are also Out of stock.

 

As long as it works on your board, stick to what works.

I actually don't think either kit is on my motherboard's QVL list, to be fair.

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7 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Whatever is on your motherboards QVL is what you should go with honestly. Ive had quite the nightmare of a time dealing with the x570 Aorus Masters QVL for 32 GB ramkits of 3600, Theres pretty much only the Crucial Ballistix (With was killed off in FEB) and a few other kits that are also Out of stock.

 

As long as it works on your board, stick to what works.

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You wont see a performance decrease, likely at all even since dual rank does offer extra bandwidth likely making the 3200 rams as fast as the 3600 rams bandwidth wise

 

Also you got scammed out of your money cause cas dont do shit for performance vs the volt or $ you dump into it (hence 3600c18 > 3200c16 performance wise) so rip the 20$+ for 3600 with slightly tightened primaries yeilding at best 2% (vs 3600c18) in synthetic benchmarks. Well unless its the bdie 16-16-16 but bdie is only good when oced

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The answer is a big it depends on the workload. If stuff fits significantly in cache, doesn't matter much. If stuff doesn't fit in cache but hits ram harder, it can matter. Differences are likely to be minor either way in the general case. If you need more ram, put in more ram. Otherwise do whatever.

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49 minutes ago, maximumzero said:

Keeping mind here that the 16GB 3600/16 is the "old" RAM, and the 32GB 3200/16 is the "new" RAM, are you still recommending sticking with the old?

 

  

I actually don't think either kit is on my motherboard's QVL list, to be fair.

Oh, my bad. Go with 32GB.

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