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DT 990 and AMP/DAC and Dolby Atmos via Dolby Access - help me to understand

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Hallo everyone, 

 

my plan is to get an DT 900 a amp/dac and connect it to my pc, but I want to use Dolby Atmos and for that I need Dolby Access with the Headphone thingi. 

 

But as far as I remember I can't connect the AMP/DAC via USB or Optical only via JACK to use Dolby Access and get my Dolby Atmos. 

 

Am I wrong? How do I connect it? 

 

 

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You can have Dolby Atmos turned on for every audio reproduction device in your system. It doesn't matter how it's connected as long as Windows sees it and Windows sees sound cards, amp/dacs etc.

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13 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You can have Dolby Atmos turned on for every audio reproduction device in your system. It doesn't matter how it's connected as long as Windows sees it and Windows sees sound cards, amp/dacs etc.

well I doubt that, if I use opitcal cable to connect my av-receiver I can't use dolby atmos. 

 

"Digital optical doesn’t support Dolby Atmos because it can’t transmit the Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD audio codecs (both of which can contain Dolby Atmos audio)"

 

this is where my question is coming from 

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My problem is more like a software Problem Dolby Access has to think. oh your AMP/DAC is a headphone I can use my software magic and bring you dolby atmos to your headphone. 

I am just not sure if this works if I use anything else than audio jack to connect AMP/DC and Pc 

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4 hours ago, SamClan said:

My problem is more like a software Problem Dolby Access has to think. oh your AMP/DAC is a headphone I can use my software magic and bring you dolby atmos to your headphone. 

I am just not sure if this works if I use anything else than audio jack to connect AMP/DC and Pc 

I am using a Xonar U5 USB soundcard, a cheap USB soundcard from AliExpress, a Type-C USB DAC, the onboard Realtek, a USB soundbar (at work) and so on.

All of them allow choosing Dolby Atmos in the sound settings as well as DTS that I have.

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36 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

I am using a Xonar U5 USB soundcard, a cheap USB soundcard from AliExpress, a Type-C USB DAC, the onboard Realtek, a USB soundbar (at work) and so on.

All of them allow choosing Dolby Atmos in the sound settings as well as DTS that I have.

Thank you, you are saying any DAC that is connected via usb should work. 

with that information I am gonna get myself a DAC. gonna mark you as solved as soon as I have tried it

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5 hours ago, SamClan said:

Thank you, you are saying any DAC that is connected via usb should work. 

with that information I am gonna get myself a DAC. gonna mark you as solved as soon as I have tried it

I even tried connecting my bluetooth tws earpohones and it allows turning Dolby Atmos on them too.

But if you plan on using it with games that don't feature Dolby Atmos, plese don't, although more fun the sound isn't as positionally accurate as without it.

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1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

I even tried connecting my bluetooth tws earpohones and it allows turning Dolby Atmos on them too.

But if you plan on using it with games that don't feature Dolby Atmos, plese don't, although more fun the sound isn't as positionally accurate as without it.

thanks for your help, I am thinking of getting SOUND BLASTERX G6. 

is it a good option for me or would you go a different road 

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I don't use Dolby Atmos for headphones, but it looks like you're mixing up between spatial sound and format. You're right about optical not supporting Dolby Atmos on AV receiver when trying to play movies or games with Atmos support. However 'Dolby Atmos for headphones' is different, that would emulate surround sound from stereo headphones, and any connection should work including optical cable. 

5 minutes ago, SamClan said:

thanks for your help, I am thinking of getting SOUND BLASTERX G6. 

is it a good option for me or would you go a different road 

IMO there are hundreds of DAC to recommend so my best advice is get what you can afford and check whether it has all the features and connections you need.

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1 hour ago, SamClan said:

thanks for your help, I am thinking of getting SOUND BLASTERX G6. 

is it a good option for me or would you go a different road 

How about the SybaSonic DAC?

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I'd probably get a topping DX3 instead of that soundblaster.

The dx1 is cheaper but the dx3 will give much higher power output at 300ohm, so if you can afford it get that instead.

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16 hours ago, lw88 said:

I'd probably get a topping DX3 instead of that soundblaster.

The dx1 is cheaper but the dx3 will give much higher power output at 300ohm, so if you can afford it get that instead.

But as far as I see it doesn't have Mikrofone in. 

 

I would sacrifice that feature for better sound 

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Right now I am confused, I have the 250 Ohm version of the dt 990, plugged it into my mobo, well front audio jack of my case and it works. decent

 

got dolby atmos running. 

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Out of curiosity, why specifically the DT990? There are tons of other great headphones out there.

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43 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

Out of curiosity, why specifically the DT990? There are tons of other great headphones out there.

i heard good things about those. and i "distrust" gaming headphones

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21 minutes ago, SamClan said:

i heard good things about those. and i "distrust" gaming headphones

Good point. Though the DT990 is pretty overrated but from the owners, it's a fine headphone indeed.

How are the sibilance and the annoying "T"? Painful or smooth?

DT880 is underrated but it's a very good headphone too. And yes, gaming headphones are trash, not do they only sound trash, they also look like trash.

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26 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

How are the sibilance and the annoying "T"? Painful or smooth?

It is not smooth, I wouldn't say painful but to be honest I use eq settings

 

 

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36 minutes ago, SamClan said:

It is not smooth, I wouldn't say painful but to be honest I use eq settings

 

 

Yep, that's what I fear. The issues like the "S" and "T" is what keeps me away from the DT990. But since you EQ it, enjoy it!

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2 hours ago, CTR640 said:

Yep, that's what I fear. The issues like the "S" and "T" is what keeps me away from the DT990. But since you EQ it, enjoy it!

what would you get?

 

and do you got a song where those S and T sounds are very very noticeable? would love to try them

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4 minutes ago, SamClan said:

what would you get?

Personally the DT880 600ohm. Less aggressive S and T.

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If you're after something with a 'smoother' sound probs check out the HD600.

 

10 hours ago, SamClan said:

Right now I am confused, I have the 250 Ohm version of the dt 990, plugged it into my mobo, well front audio jack of my case and it works. decent

Because resistance isn't the only thing that determines whether an amp can drive a pair of headphones. You need to look at sensitivity too.
i.e. Beyer dt990 250ohm is like 93/94db/mW, but the hifiman he6 has a resistance of 50ohms and a sensitivity of 83.5db/mW and therefore needs an amplifier.
Also some motherboard or front panel audio connectors will have enough power for mid resistance and high sensitivity headphones.

A dac/amp is going to be a good idea anyway. You'll want it for future PC upgrades where your motherboard can't run them, but more likely for upgrades where your motherboard audio sounds like balls.

 

10 hours ago, SamClan said:

got dolby atmos running. 

Turn it off if you don't want to have to EQ out unwanted frequency accentuations. It might not be causing them, but it could be. It's just good troubleshooting to turn that stuff off first.

That stuff might also ruin your positional audio in games and stereo mix in music.

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13 hours ago, CTR640 said:

DT880

gonna try them first, but 250 ohm variant

9 hours ago, lw88 said:

If you're after something with a 'smoother' sound probs check out the HD600.

 

and it is a lot more expensive but if you gonna say it is worth it,. i might buy it. but it depents if I like the dt880

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5 hours ago, SamClan said:

gonna try them first, but 250 ohm variant

and it is a lot more expensive but if you gonna say it is worth it,. i might buy it. but it depents if I like the dt880

Wether it's worth it or not is entirely subjective. Since you already have the DT990, I'd say, keep it if you like it and don't get the DT880 in order to keep your money for other, especially if it's a lot more expensive.

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53 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

Wether it's worth it or not is entirely subjective. Since you already have the DT990, I'd say, keep it if you like it and don't get the DT880 in order to keep your money for other, especially if it's a lot more expensive.

all good, I bought the dt990 with the option to send it back and get my money back too. 

 

if the dt880 is not as good as I want it to be, I will try the HD600. 

 

by no means the dt990 is bad, but the high "t" and "s" sounds are a little bit annoying. and if there is another option why not try it. I will keep you updated 

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18 minutes ago, SamClan said:

all good, I bought the dt990 with the option to send it back and get my money back too. 

 

if the dt880 is not as good as I want it to be, I will try the HD600. 

 

by no means the dt990 is bad, but the high "t" and "s" sounds are a little bit annoying. and if there is another option why not try it. I will keep you updated 

Yep, I can totally relate to the very annoying "t" and "s". Unbearable. The reloading sounds of the weapons in GTAV and painful "t" in voices...

 

What is your budget?

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