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Should I upgrade my R5 3600 or keep it?

Pairing my 3600 with an RTX 3070 and playing at 1440p. Been considering upgrading for a while but contemplating weather or not it’ll actually be worth it. I plan on keeping my GPU for at least another 2-3 years. 

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If you are happy with it then dont. There is always something new and shiny just around the corner, but only you can tell of you are happy with what you have. Then again maybe you can get a good deal on a 5000 series on black friday, then you can keep you motherboard and ram. Keep in mind you probobly need a bios update.

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You should be fine with the 3600. The only suggested upgrade would be a 5600(X or non X), or a 5800X3D.

 

If you are getting good FPS, then you really don't have much reason to upgrade.

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If your in the us you can nab used 5800x3ds for 240ish dollars.

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3 minutes ago, Sarra said:

You should be fine with the 3600. The only suggested upgrade would be a 5600(X or non X), or a 5800X3D.

 

If you are getting good FPS, then you really don't have much reason to upgrade.

I don't see why would anyone want to upgrade for only 0,2Ghz?

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

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Well, 3600 is a good CPU for sure. One thing you might encounter is if the CPU is rate-limiting the GPU. You could look at getting the 5700 G/X or 5800X if you are looking at upgrading. 

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3 minutes ago, podkall said:

I don't see why would anyone want to upgrade for only 0,2Ghz?

There's a LOT more when going from a 3600 to a 5600, but for gaming, sure, 200 mhz is a tiny difference. 🙄

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Just now, Sarra said:

There's a LOT more when going from a 3600 to a 5600, but for gaming, sure, 200 mhz is a tiny difference. 🙄

What more does the CPU offer?

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

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Ryzen 3 1200 | 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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22 minutes ago, Skyie said:

Pairing my 3600 with an RTX 3070 and playing at 1440p. Been considering upgrading for a while but contemplating weather or not it’ll actually be worth it. I plan on keeping my GPU for at least another 2-3 years. 

Upgrade to a 5800x3d.  Why?  When you give more info, so will I 🙂

 

But for what you've asked... 100% upgrade.

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9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Upgrade to a 5800x3d.  Why?  When you give more info, so will I 🙂

 

But for what you've asked... 100% upgrade.

I live in the uk and the 5800x3d is currently £415 ($500 ish) which to me makes it hardly seem good value 

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31 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

If your in the us you can nab used 5800x3ds for 240ish dollars.

Man I wish! They’re going for over £400 on this side of the pond 

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28 minutes ago, NoWaterCooling007 said:

Well, 3600 is a good CPU for sure. One thing you might encounter is if the CPU is rate-limiting the GPU. You could look at getting the 5700 G/X or 5800X if you are looking at upgrading. 

I sometimes experience stutters / frame drops when playing certain games, mainly fortnite but I think that’s just due to UE5. The 5700G and 5800x through benchmarks don’t seem like a good upgrade for the price at the moment though, hence why I’m a bit hesitant

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36 minutes ago, Dragonaut said:

If you are happy with it then dont. There is always something new and shiny just around the corner, but only you can tell of you are happy with what you have. Then again maybe you can get a good deal on a 5000 series on black friday, then you can keep you motherboard and ram. Keep in mind you probobly need a bios update.

Yeah im planning on sticking with am4 for a good while as am5 doesn’t seem good value right now. I might consider a 5800x3d on Black Friday if prices do go down but here (in the UK) they’re stupidly expensive and I’m not sure I’d see an improvement with a GPU like my RTX 3070 and especially at 1440p

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Just now, podkall said:

What more does the CPU offer?

A better memory controller, IPC differences, more stable infinity fabric at higher clocks, it's more than "just 200 mhz"

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16 minutes ago, Skyie said:

I live in the uk and the 5800x3d is currently £415 ($500 ish) which to me makes it hardly seem good value 

Good!  More information!  You're budget limited and/or have critical thinking!

 

My point is that asking if you should do a thing without ANY information at all results in our inability to offer help.

 

So you can't afford $415, np. Good to know.  What is the rest of your system?  What other limits do you have?

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2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Good!  More information!  You're budget limited and/or have critical thinking!

 

My point is that asking if you should do a thing without ANY information at all results in our inability to offer help.

 

So you can't afford $415, np. Good to know.  What is the rest of your system?  What other limits do you have?

Well I did give you info in my initial question but that’s besides the point. I didn’t say I couldn’t afford £415, I just don’t want to spend all of that money on JUST a cpu. As for the rest of my system, I have an RTX 3070, and 32GB DDR4-3600, and I also play at 1440p.

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2 minutes ago, Skyie said:

Well I did give you info in my initial question but that’s besides the point. I didn’t say I couldn’t afford £415, I just don’t want to spend all of that money on JUST a cpu. As for the rest of my system, I have an RTX 3070, and 32GB DDR4-3600, and I also play at 1440p.

You gave us this:

 

"Pairing my 3600 with an RTX 3070 and playing at 1440p. Been considering upgrading for a while but contemplating weather or not it’ll actually be worth it. I plan on keeping my GPU for at least another 2-3 years."

 

Nothing about how you spend money, how much you make, or have.  Just I have this, should I get that.  Yes, you should.  It will increase your framerate, minimums, provide a smoother gaming experience, and get girls.  

 

There is a lot more to this than should I get it.  I would, but that's me.  Without knowing you... I need more info.  As you said, $415 isn't reasonable. Maybe look at the 5600 and sell the 3600 so it's a minimal outlay of cash?  You could also do that for the 5800x3d too *shrug*

 

We did all these posts and questions at you... and I think you have your answer now.  Enjoy.

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Other Tech:

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- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You gave us this:

 

"Pairing my 3600 with an RTX 3070 and playing at 1440p. Been considering upgrading for a while but contemplating weather or not it’ll actually be worth it. I plan on keeping my GPU for at least another 2-3 years."

 

Nothing about how you spend money, how much you make, or have.  Just I have this, should I get that.  Yes, you should.  It will increase your framerate, minimums, provide a smoother gaming experience, and get girls.  

 

There is a lot more to this than should I get it.  I would, but that's me.  Without knowing you... I need more info.  As you said, $415 isn't reasonable. Maybe look at the 5600 and sell the 3600 so it's a minimal outlay of cash?  You could also do that for the 5800x3d too *shrug*

 

We did all these posts and questions at you... and I think you have your answer now.  Enjoy.

I wasn’t aware I needed to give you a full biography. I simply asked is it worth upgrading at 1440p with a 3070 and was aiming to get answers regarding price to performance - best value upgrade etc. Not “use this because this best” and it costs my right kidney, because obviously that’s just bad value and ultimately a waste of money which could’ve been spent elsewhere. 

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The 3600 will become insufficient in a few years. The 5800X3D might last a few years longer, or it might not. But at the end, when it's struggling, the 5800X3D will give more performance than a 3600, better FPS and everything to go with it. The 5800X3D will be the end game for your current setup, while maybe in a few years, you'll want something better, but have to buy an entire new system instead of upgrading if you stick with the 3600. A 5600 or 5600X might be either/or, but it's your system, your money.

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57 minutes ago, podkall said:

What more does the CPU offer?

among other things:  A dramatic uptick in IPC as well as PCIE Gen 4, and more cache.  3600 -> 5600 is something like a 15-20% (or more) performance increase?

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38 minutes ago, tkitch said:

among other things:  A dramatic uptick in IPC as well as PCIE Gen 4, and more cache.  3600 -> 5600 is something like a 15-20% (or more) performance increase?

1 hour ago, Sarra said:

A better memory controller, IPC differences, more stable infinity fabric at higher clocks, it's more than "just 200 mhz"

This is exactly why I love LTT forums, the more I know.

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

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1 hour ago, Skyie said:

I wasn’t aware I needed to give you a full biography. I simply asked is it worth upgrading at 1440p with a 3070 and was aiming to get answers regarding price to performance - best value upgrade etc. Not “use this because this best” and it costs my right kidney, because obviously that’s just bad value and ultimately a waste of money which could’ve been spent elsewhere. 

So the reason why someone would want more information is to understand what is best for you,

for example if you say you have a limited budget you can spend on upgrading PC, people can tell you the best option for your budget or multiple options if you ask,

 

you could have a reason on why you're considering an upgrade,

 

or for example you could say: "I have X CPU+GPU it delivers 60 fps in Y game and I want 120+ fps because my monitor is 144HZ"

 

or something along those words..

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

PC:

Ryzen 3 1200 | 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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1 hour ago, Skyie said:

I wasn’t aware I needed to give you a full biography. I simply asked is it worth upgrading at 1440p with a 3070 and was aiming to get answers regarding price to performance - best value upgrade etc. Not “use this because this best” and it costs my right kidney, because obviously that’s just bad value and ultimately a waste of money which could’ve been spent elsewhere. 

I don't want a biography, I don't give two shits if your mom said it was okay or not.

 

But EVERYTHING you take into consideration when buying something is what we would need to take into consideration too.

 

And yes, FOR ME and my $XXX,000 a year job.... a 5800x3D is perfectly acceptable and I wouldn't have gamed on a mediocre 3600 in the first place.  But that's me.  I do not know how you think, nor does anyone here, and we need more info than 1400p + 3070. 

 

 

Do you care about visuals or fps more?

 

Can you tell the difference between 120fps and 144fps?  Are you like me, or are you sensitive to fps?

 

Do we know if you have a use for the 3600 in another machine or can sell it?  

 

What is your budget for an upgrade?  Does your wife have to approve?  (yes, this is a VERY real thing, as most women don't have sex if they're irritated when their men spend money on shit they deem dumb, ask me now I know?).  

 

Where do you live even, so we can see pricing in your area?  Maybe you're in Lithuania, or worse... Louisiana.  Do you have a Microcenter near you for even better prices?

 

Then if a CPU upgrade is in the cards, what else makes MORE sense to upgrade?  

 

Do you have something holding you back?  PSU wattage is low, motherboard is cheap and weak, 1440p monitor is only 60Hz?

 

etc.

 

If you look at the questions and suggestions people asked you, you'll see that they dug deeper and did so much clarifying ON YOUR BEHALF.  WHy?  Because they had no idea and wanted to cover bases.

 

So basically by not giving enough information you required everyone else to overthink and spend time covering bases and options.  Thanks 🙂

 

That's why I'm salty.  So many come here and ask questions without shit for background information necessary.  You know it.  We don't.  

 

Funny thing is, if your kids or wife or husband asked the same thing the same way... you'd give them sideeye and ask them how you can possibly answer that?!

 

Yeah.

 

Happy Hour time!   See ya!

 

Edit:  I'm not salty anymore, so best of luck in whatever you pick and here's to fun games and good friends.  No hard feeling, boss 🙂

 

 

 

TBD - AMD Ryzen 7 7700x - MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX - G. Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 32GB - Samsung 980 1TB x3 - Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 - ON THE WAY: EK-AIO 360 Basic and ThermalTake Core P3.  Looking forward to building week of Dec 5th.

 

Emma : i9 9900K 5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID 0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Corsair Virtuoso SE - Logitech G910, G502 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Samsung 27" + Dell 24" 

 

Raven:  Intel i3 10100F - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Inland 256GB SSD + Toshiba 2TB HDD - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Spectre 24" 

 

Other Tech:

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 - i7 7700HQ, 16GB 2400 MHz RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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If you are only gaming, you could just keep it. But if you even ocassionaly stream and do media work which is time bound then you might get the new CPU. Also if you are heavy multitasker you should benefit a bit. Just for gaming, the upgrade shouldn't do too much at 1440p. If you have an extreme setup, like 4k or 240hz+ then maybe it would make a noticeable difference. I just got a 5700x coming from a 2600. I've yet to try more applications to give a better personal answer.

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There supposedly a Ryzen 3600AF rumored.

It is a Ryzen 3600 based on the Ryzen 5000-series 'Zen3' CPU architecture.

We'll just have to wait and see...

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  • Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull
  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
  • Corsair TX850 (ver.1)
  • Cooler Master HAF 932

 

<> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <>

<> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <>

<> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <>

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