zen 4 AMD Ryzen 7000 Zen4 “Raphael” Desktop CPU Review Roundup: Ryzen 5 7600X, Ryzen 7 7700X, Ryzen 9 7900X & Ryzen 9 7950X Thoroughly Benchmarked

[BiG StroOnZ]

Summary

Today is the day that AMD has allowed reviewers to start publishing their Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 Series processor reviews. Here are some of the various reviews out in the wild, along with the various changes happening with the Zen 4 architecture. 

 

 

Performance Summary of 25 Reviews Courtesy of 3DCenter: 

 

 

AMD Press Release Slides Courtesy of AnandTech and TweakTown: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From HotHardware Review "Intro":

 

 

Various Video Reviews "YouTube":

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From TechPowerUp Review "Value & Conclusion":

 

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We spent the last months working on a new and improved CPU benchmarking suite with tons of new apps and games, and every processor was retested with the latest Windows 11 updates, game patches and drivers.

 

Averaged over our 45 application tests we find the Ryzen 5 7600X a whopping 25% ahead the 5600X, beating much higher positioned processors like the Ryzen 9 3900X, 5800X3D and 5800X, Intel Core i9-11900K, and 12600K—very impressive. Ryzen 7 7700X is 15% faster in apps, the 12700K is 10% ahead, and the mighty 12900K is only 22% faster, but costs almost twice as much.

 

Averaged over our 45 application tests, we find the Ryzen 7 7700X a highly impressive 30% faster than its Ryzen 7 5700X predecessor, and 20% faster than the 5800X. That 30% is a huge increase in performance, gen-over-gen, and AMD achieved it without increasing the core count—7700X is still an 8-core processor. This makes performance slightly faster than the outgoing Intel Core i7-12700K, which needs eight P-Cores, plus four E-Cores (8P+4E) to keep up. Another impressive achievement is that the Ryzen 7700X beats AMD's last generation flagship, the Ryzen 9 5950X, by a small margin in application performance. Intel's i9-12900K is only 7% faster in applications, the Ryzen 9 7900X, also released today, is 15% faster, and the 7950X impresses with a 26% lead.

 

Averaged over our 45 application tests we find the Ryzen 9 7900X end up about 6% faster than the Core i9-12900K averaged across our applications, and an impressive 15% faster than the i7-12700K. The average only tells a part of the story, and you need to pay closer attention to tests that scale across scores, such as 3D rendering, video encoding, code compilation, and enterprise applications, where the 7900X absolutely dominates the top-two Intel chips, mainly because all 12 of its CPU cores are "performance" cores, with ample power limits at their disposal for boost clock residency. AMD has given the 7900X some generous boost frequency spread, going all the way up to 5.60 GHz, but more on this later.

 

Averaged over our 45 application tests we can confirm that the Ryzen 9 7950X is a mighty processor and the fastest CPU we ever tested. It runs 25% faster than last generation's 5950X flagship, 10% faster than 7900X, 20% faster than 7700X—that's in our mix of highly-threaded, mostly-threaded, lightly-threaded and single-threaded workloads. If you look at parallelized apps only, the differences will be even bigger, and you probably should check out each of our application tests if you feel you're in the market for a 7950X. While performance is often impressive, there are also many scenarios in which the 16 cores can really make no noteworthy difference over a 7900X, or even 7700X for that matter, but that is expected—what's important is that you are aware of this. Rendering applications are a perfect match for the 7950X, but this processor isn't "just for rendering"—we've also seen impressive results in web hosting, databases, media encoding and scientific simulation tasks. Compared to Intel's Core i9-12900K, the 7950X is 15% faster on average, in some workloads it's a bloodbath however, and AMD's offering achieves 30-50% higher performance.

 

My thoughts

I haven't had a chance to take a look at everything, which is why I'm creating this thread so people have a thread to talk about the reviews along with the various ins and outs of Zen 4. I will constantly update this OP as I find more information and others do as well. There seems to be a slew of information to take in, I will try to put as much as I can in this OP. I've had a chance to take a look at many of the reviews and my conclusion is that there's going to be a tug of war match coming soon with AMD vs Intel when Raptor Lake launches. I think overall the performance of Zen 4 is great, but I see now why they are planning to still launch 3D V-Cache products sooner rather than later. 

 

Sources "And Other Classic Written Reviews":

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7900X-and-AMD-Ryzen-5-7600X-in-review-Back-to-the-fastest-gaming-CPU-crown-with-Raphael.657698.0.html

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-review-retaking-the-gaming-crown-with-potent-ray-tracing-cpu-performance/

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/ryzen-7600x-and-7950x-review-zen-4-starts-off-expensive-but-impressive/

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_zen_4_ryzen_7_7700x_and_ryzen_9_7950x_review/1

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-7-7700x-zen-4-review/

https://videocardz.com/138525/amd-ryzen-7000-zen4-raphael-desktop-cpu-review-roundup

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10195/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-zen-4-cpu/index.html

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10193/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-zen-4-cpu/index.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-5-7600x-cpu-review

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-review-benchmarks-performance/

https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-and-7950x-cpu-review

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-review,1.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-review,1.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-review,1.html

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-review-benchmarks/

https://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/launch-analyse-amd-ryzen-7000

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600x/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900x/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x/

https://www.techspot.com/review/2534-amd-ryzen-7600x/

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-7700x

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-review/

[Moonzy]

i like how the cpu power draw scales with the amount of cooling capability you got

 

if you can afford a baller PC, you can probably afford to pay a higher electric bill lol

[GuiltySpark_]

We’re going to get so many threads about why their chip is at 95c. Better start prepping the copypasta now. 
 

If you really want to dig deep: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end

 

Either way, I’m jumping in with 7900x just for something new to tinker with. 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

It's seems like I'll be happy with the 5800X3D in my 4K gaming rig for some time to come.

[Senzelian]

Ryzen 7000 is so cool and so disappointing at the same time.

Definitely not worth upgrading from Ryzen 5000 - at least for me - but I want one anyway. 

 

I really like the addition of integrated graphics on all chips. Makes troubeshooting graphics card issues so much easier!

[Dr_Whom]

Recently upgraded as I was able to snag a 12700KF for $260. Glad to see it wasn't the worst decision I've ever made lol. Pretty impressive overall though.

[CommanderAlex]

15 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

It's seems like I'll be happy with the 5800X3D in my 4K gaming rig for some time to come.

Same here with my 5950X, no need to upgrade unless your like an iPhone user that needs the latest and greatest. 

[GuiltySpark_]

This is super cool. ECO mode may be more viable than I thought for some situations. Obviously this is only one test but its something to think about and play with.

 

[ZetZet]

7600X needs price cuts before it even releases. Sad. Unless Intel really does bump up their entire range...

[Mister Woof]

Seems for existing AM4 gamers a 5800X3D makes a lot of sense still

[porina]

43 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

This is super cool. ECO mode may be more viable than I thought for some situations. Obviously this is only one test but its something to think about and play with.

Without double checking the original, be careful if they set 65W limit, which is not the same as 65W TDP. AMD use around 1.35x TDP to get PPT, which is the actual power limit. 65W TDP CPUs should be limited to 88W PPT. Still, if you want to run at 65W, not gonna stop you! But 170W TDP is 230W PPT, even if it now sounds like it wont be reached due to thermal limits. 

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, porina said:

Without double checking the original, be careful if they set 65W limit, which is not the same as 65W TDP. AMD use around 1.35x TDP to get PPT, which is the actual power limit. 65W TDP CPUs should be limited to 88W PPT. Still, if you want to run at 65W, not gonna stop you! But 170W TDP is 230W PPT, even if it now sounds like it wont be reached due to thermal limits. 

I did think about that and now reading back, I'm not certain what they did. 

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end/20#:~:text=testing (so far).-,Ryzen,-9 7950X at

[porina]

2 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I did think about that and now reading back, I'm not certain what they did. 

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end/20#:~:text=testing (so far).-,Ryzen,-9 7950X at

Having had a look, I think they set a 65W limit for their testing as illustration of how efficient it can get. The only caution here is not to try comparing 65W limit to 65W TDP CPUs thinking they're the same.

[Mister Woof]

Actually a little underwhelmed by this. Was hoping based on the AMD marketing materials that Zen4 would outperform 12th gen by a meaningful margin in games...but it looks like in some reviews it barely edges out a win, and in some cases, regression vs. their own 5800X3D. With 13th gen on the horizon with a promised 15% IPC improvement, and a buttload more e-cores to fluff up multi-core performance, I'm going to guess that 13th gen will outperform in gaming and be close if not far behind in multi-threaded apps.

[xg32]

1 hour ago, Senzelian said:

Ryzen 7000 is so cool and so disappointing at the same time.

Definitely not worth upgrading from Ryzen 5000 - at least for me - but I want one anyway. 

 

I really like the addition of integrated graphics on all chips. Makes troubeshooting graphics card issues so much easier!

really interesting how i find the chips impressive but have 0 interest of upgrading vs the 5800x3d, 13th gen, 7xxx3d and even the 5950x. I'm used to running my chips at 90, guess 95 is the new number when the 3d chips come out.

[Mister Woof]

I'm also really happy my G502 has unlimited scrolling because 1st post is a doozy! 

[leadeater]

45 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Actually a little underwhelmed by this. Was hoping based on the AMD marketing materials that Zen4 would outperform 12th gen by a meaningful margin in games...but it looks like in some reviews it barely edges out a win, and in some cases, regression vs. their own 5800X3D. With 13th gen on the horizon with a promised 15% IPC improvement, and a buttload more e-cores to fluff up multi-core performance, I'm going to guess that 13th gen will outperform in gaming and be close if not far behind in multi-threaded apps.

I'm quite certain AMD is saving V-Cache part options for 13th Gen competition, literally no reason to release those any sooner. If it's as good as it was for the 5800X3D then things should still be quite competitive, biggest threat to AMD regarding Intel 13th Gen is their current large lead in the top end parts for productivity type workloads which should be closed quite a lot or maybe even surpassed.

 

Let the perpetual holding for the soon^TM next big thing but never buying anything continue lol

[WereCat]

Until 7000 series with VCache releases... gamers rejoice! 

 

[CephDigital]

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

This is super cool. ECO mode may be more viable than I thought for some situations. Obviously this is only one test but its something to think about and play with.

 

That's looking pretty good incase people don't want their chips on inferno mode all the time or wanna minimize power draw + temps for something like an ITX build. Are there numbers for the 7600X and the 7700X in eco mode?

[GuiltySpark_]

3 minutes ago, CephDigital said:

That's looking pretty good incase people don't want their chips on inferno mode all the time or wanna minimize power draw + temps for something like an ITX build. Are there numbers for the 7600X and the 7700X in eco mode?

Not in Anand's review but I'm sure others have tested this. I don't have any offhand.

[Ultraforce]

For me the Level1Techs Linux channel video talking about AM5 is really the biggest reason I think I'll probably go with it. I don't really want to mess around with Overclocking or similar stuff and so high core count albeit maybe on a B type motherboard is probably more then enough for the gaming and virtualization as well as programming and productivity stuff I want to do and will be a large improvement over the intel 8700k I currently use.

 

[Mister Woof]

33 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I'm quite certain AMD is saving V-Cache part options for 13th Gen competition, literally no reason to release those any sooner. If it's as good as it was for the 5800X3D then things should still be quite competitive, biggest threat to AMD regarding Intel 13th Gen is their current large lead in the top end parts for productivity type workloads which should be closed quite a lot or maybe even surpassed.

 

Let the perpetual holding for the soon^TM next big thing but never buying anything continue lol

I get the business strategy behind this, but just feels like if they know V-Cache is a hit, they should just have incorporated it into the standard models.

[leadeater]

42 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I get the business strategy behind this, but just feels like if they know V-Cache is a hit, they should just have incorporated it into the standard models.

Cost, even I'd rather have both options. Now is better for us but they simply won't do that.

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I get the business strategy behind this, but just feels like if they know V-Cache is a hit, they should just have incorporated it into the standard models.

at least through zen 5, Vcache will be seperate skus
with each gen having base, baseVcache, and cloud

we dont know enough about zen 6, but I would expect eventually, it would be on all of them by the next platform or something. but the vcache is a lot of cost add for not a lot of value add for a lot of customers.

[BiG StroOnZ]

3 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

We’re going to get so many threads about why their chip is at 95c. Better start prepping the copypasta now. 

 

That, along with the new boot cycles for memory timing training:

 

https://youtu.be/qQHPE3Z4kmA?t=990