The RTX 4090 looks weird. - Sept. 12, 2022

[RILEYISMYNAME]

 

NEWS SOURCES:

 

ZO TACKY?

RTX 4090 photos leaked

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1454881-zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-graphics-card-picture-has-been-leaked/

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-graphics-card-has-been-leaked

Baidu post deleted https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8017750710?pn=1

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/featured-zotac-rtx-4090-graphics-card.html

https://wccftech.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-custom-graphics-card-leaked-pictured-massive-quad-slot-coolers/

Upgraded RTX 3060, 3060 Ti, 3070 Ti coming in October https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/rumour-claims-nvidia-will-launch-three-new-rtx-30-gpus-in-october/

https://twitter.com/Zed__Wang/status/1567331155023908864

 

CLEVER GIRL

Intel says Raptor Lake can do 6GHz at stock, 8GHz overclocked

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1454816-raptor-lake-6-ghz-intel-tech-tour/

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-teases-8-ghz-raptor-lake-world-record

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1569216915708735489

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/computers-desktops/intel-raptor-lake-details-teased-including-6ghz-stock-clock-speeds-for-13th-gen-cpus

single thread 15% higher https://www.pcgamer.com/look-out-zen-4-intel-says-raptor-lakes-single-thread-performance-is-15-higher-than-alder-lake/

bottom half of 13^th gen is Alder Lake https://www.pcgamer.com/intels-13th-gen-13600-and-below-to-be-based-on-the-older-alder-lake-architecture/

https://www.igorslab.de/intel-raptor-lake-argumentationshilfen-fuer-den-verkauf-der-neuen-cpus-zum-durchblaettern/

 

SHUT OFF THE ART PUMPS

Some art communities ban AI-generated art

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/flooded-with-ai-generated-images-some-art-communities-ban-them-completely/

https://waxy.org/2022/09/online-art-communities-begin-banning-ai-generated-images/

Newgrounds https://www.newgrounds.com/wiki/help-information/terms-of-use/art-guidelines

Inkblot https://lmg.gg/mzHeh

AI generated new image every 40 seconds !!WARNING!! NSFW https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ggqq/this-furry-porn-ai-generator

DeviantArt? https://twitter.com/ZakugaMignon/status/1567280766471512066

 

QUICK BITS

 

IT’S HAPPENING…CAN YOU FEEL IT

Ethereum Merge

https://www.reuters.com/technology/ethereum-blockchain-undergo-major-upgrade-cut-energy-use-2022-09-12/

https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-devs-successfully-complete-merge-shadow-fork-with-no-client-incompatibility-issues/

affects all of crypto https://decrypt.co/109424/the-ethereum-merge-matters-for-everyone-in-crypto

https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge

PoW to PoS https://youtu.be/EEuPmA8w0Kc?t=60

Google countdown https://www.google.com/search?q=ethereum+merge&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA894CA894&oq=ether&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i131i433i512l3j69i60l3.956j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

PHONES ARE BETTER LOCKED

Apple launches iOS 16

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/12/23348578/ios-16-download-rollout-availability-features

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/12/apple-releases-ios-16/

@0:14 https://youtu.be/RH9cezXEFS0?t=14

Dynamic Island on Xiaomi MIUI https://twitter.com/vvaiibhav/status/1568942825068445697

 

DO THE BEST QUESTS LAST

Meta Quest Pro images leaked

https://twistedvoxel.com/meta-quest-pro-first-look-leaked/

https://twitter.com/NathieVR/status/1569038684338667521/photo/1https://twitter.com/NathieVR/status/1569038684338667521/photo/1

https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1569126299871895552

 

GIF ME A BREAK

Gifs in Microsoft Teams used as attack vector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESDqL1hB5s

https://medium.com/@bobbyrsec/gifshell-covert-attack-chain-and-c2-utilizing-microsoft-teams-gifs-1618c4e64ed7

https://gfycat.com/shorttermbrownindigobunting

 

BLUE IT

Explosion causes Blue Origin rocket failure

@1:22:57, 1:25:29 https://youtu.be/9Kfn9Cx_bjI?t=4977

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/blue-origin-launch-failure-1.6580008

https://apnews.com/article/space-launches-exploration-science-jeff-bezos-ec76ff4aad625cf342294a3a1a16c6ac

[Spotty]

"The RTX 4090 looks weird"... Probably because for the video thumbnail somebody mirrored the image and photoshopped the Geforce RTX logo backwards, which I presume was done for clickbait.

 

Fixed. Now it just looks like a normal graphics card with some rounded edges on the fan shroud and backplate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Si3Rra_7]

That guy mumbling in the background of the Meta Quest Pro leak is creeping me out man wtf. 

[RILEYISMYNAME]

12 hours ago, Spotty said:

"The RTX 4090 looks weird"... Probably because for the video thumbnail somebody mirrored the image and photoshopped the Geforce RTX logo backwards, which I presume was done for clickbait.

 

Fixed. Now it just looks like a normal graphics card with some rounded edges on the fan shroud and backplate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honest question - do you find this title and thumbnail clickbaity in a bad way? Why?

From my perspective - the card looks weird with the rounded edges! We're not promising anything that we don't deliver. We flipped the Geforce text because the card looked better on the right side, and it would be weird to have flipped text, so

[Spotty]

39 minutes ago, RILEYISMYNAME said:

Honest question - do you find this title and thumbnail clickbaity in a bad way? Why?

Depends how you define bad clickbait. Taking a familiar object and manipulating slightly in a way that isn't immediately obvious gives an 'uncanny valley' feeling of unease. I saw the thumbnail and my immediate reaction was "there's something not right about that", and it was only after looking at it for a few seconds that I realised that it was mirrored. So if your definition of good clickbait is something that catches people's attention then it worked. I spent more time looking at that thumbnail than I otherwise would have. After I realised that the image had been altered it comes across as desperation, that you know the topic on its own merit isn't interesting enough to warrant people spending their time watching the video so you need to manipulate it and sensationalize it to draw people in. 

 

Obviously a graphics card like how it is pictured with the PCIe fingers on the opposite side wouldn't be compatible with any existing cases, so by showing that manipulated image really you're saying more than it just looks weird. There's the implication that "new graphics cards aren't compatible with existing systems", which is a completely different thing and not the story.

 

58 minutes ago, RILEYISMYNAME said:

From my perspective - the card looks weird with the rounded edges! We're not promising anything that we don't deliver.

If a video is titled "Brad Pitt looks so weird now!" and the thumbnail was Brad Pitt Photoshopped to look incredibly ill or disfigured, then the video goes on to show that Brad Pitt is looking the same handsome self as he always does but he just cut his hair, that to me would be bad clickbait - even if you argue that it still answered the question of what does Brad Pitt look like. 

 

I saw the news articles and forum thread before the techlinked video, so I had already seen what the card looked like. I personally didn't think it looked that weird, it's just a regular card with some rounded edges on the fan shroud. Maybe I'm getting old but I actually prefer that look over the aggressive gamer sharp edges that some other fan shrouds have had in the past, or that weird plastic mouth thing EVGA had on their 3080.

Spoiler

Can't unsee this.

 

[Alex Atkin UK]

Its also rather disingenuous to say "The RTX 4090 looks weird" when its just one particular model.  But we know LTT titles are ALWAYS clickbait because of YouTubes crappy algorithm requiring it to get coverage.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

13 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Its also rather disingenuous to say "The RTX 4090 looks weird" when its just one particular model.  But we know LTT titles are ALWAYS clickbait because of YouTubes crappy algorithm requiring it to get coverage.

Yup. I bet the Founders Edition 4090 is real nice looking

[Alex Atkin UK]

7 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

Yup. I bet the Founders Edition 4090 is real nice looking

There's already been supposed leaks of 4080 FE looking just slightly different to the 3090 FE.

 

However much I liked the 3080 FE, when I heard it ran hotter than AIB models, that put me off.  Function over form every time for me.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

11 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

There's already been supposed leaks of 4080 FE looking just slightly different to the 3090 FE.

 

However much I liked the 3080 FE, when I heard it ran hotter than AIB models, that put me off.  Function over form every time for me.

That's why I have two phanteks t30s RIGHT below my 3080 FE

[CTR640]

That's one ugly motherfucker. But that abomination won't be an issue in non-windowed case.

[RILEYISMYNAME]

2 hours ago, Spotty said:

 After I realised that the image had been altered it comes across as desperation, that you know the topic on its own merit isn't interesting enough to warrant people spending their time watching the video so you need to manipulate it and sensationalize it to draw people in. 

 

Obviously a graphics card like how it is pictured with the PCIe fingers on the opposite side wouldn't be compatible with any existing cases, so by showing that manipulated image really you're saying more than it just looks weird. There's the implication that "new graphics cards aren't compatible with existing systems", which is a completely different thing and not the story.

Oooooh interesting. I had not even thought about the fact that people could interpret the thumb as indicating the PCIe connector was on the wrong side, primarily because we did not do that on purpose! 
Full context: Historically, I've made every TechLinked thumbnail, unless I'm out of the office. That changed recently - we've got a graphics person making video thumbnails now, which I review before posting. They're not a very technical person, so I'm guessing they didn't know that reversing the image would make it look that weird. Obviously they knew to reverse the text, though. When I reviewed the thumb, I didn't notice anything weird! 

The point is - this was not intentional manipulation to trick viewers into clicking on a disingenuous thumbnail!

 

I'll let the thumb artist know about this and pay more attention to these kind of details in the future. 

 

2 hours ago, Spotty said:

If a video is titled "Brad Pitt looks so weird now!" and the thumbnail was Brad Pitt Photoshopped to look incredibly ill or disfigured, then the video goes on to show that Brad Pitt is looking the same handsome self as he always does but he just cut his hair, that to me would be bad clickbait - even if you argue that it still answered the question of what does Brad Pitt look like. 

 

I saw the news articles and forum thread before the techlinked video, so I had already seen what the card looked like. I personally didn't think it looked that weird, it's just a regular card with some rounded edges on the fan shroud. 

I can understand why you think this Brad Pitt analogy applies here, but I have to disagree. We didn't manipulate the card in any way other than simply mirroring it, and it looks so similar that I didn't even notice it was flipped until you brought this up. My guess is that you were more aware of this because you had seen the card before, and DIDN'T think it looked weird - to me, it looked really different! lol. I don't remember ever seeing a graphics card with rounded edges like that, but I've only been on the "pc gamer scene" since 2013. I honestly thought the GPU itself was enough of a clickable thing without modifying it at all.

 

To make sure I wasn't tripping I searched the comments for any other complaints about the thumbnail, and only found these: 

 

Spoiler

 

 

2 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Its also rather disingenuous to say "The RTX 4090 looks weird" when its just one particular model.  But we know LTT titles are ALWAYS clickbait because of YouTubes crappy algorithm requiring it to get coverage.

The sad reality of YouTube is that we have to use thumbnails and titles that are the most likely to get clicks, because that's our livelihood. But LMG as a whole strives to only make "legitbait" as described in Veritasium's excellent video on the subject.  To me, because this card looks basically the same, this is legitbait, and I feel like that's supported by the lack of comments on the video - BUT I don't want to let this stand in case other people are indeed feeling deceived. So I just asked the thumb-maker to flip the card back and it's uploaded to YT now: 

[Alex Atkin UK]

14 minutes ago, RILEYISMYNAME said:

The sad reality of YouTube is that we have to use thumbnails and titles that are the most likely to get clicks, because that's our livelihood. But LMG as a whole strives to only make "legitbait" as described in Veritasium's excellent video on the subject.  To me, because this card looks basically the same, this is legitbait, and I feel like that's supported by the lack of comments on the video - BUT I don't want to let this stand in case other people are indeed feeling deceived. So I'll get the thumb-maker to flip the card and re-upload a new thumb. 

I totally understand the reasoning, but I do think its rather borderline to say "The RTX 4090 looks weird" rather than "The Zotac RTX 4090 looks weird" or "The RTX 4090 may look weird".

Personally, I've kinda stopped caring about it so much as like you say, LMG needs to maintain their revenue stream.  But I'm not sure I'd call it "legitbait" as its still a misleading title, making it sound like ALL 4090 cards are going to look weird when we have zero evidence to suggest that.  Its not like its new for the odd AIB to decide to try something a bit different to make them distinct from the mainstream cards.

[Middcore]

It's a weird-looking card even without the image flipped. It seems like the design philosophy was that adding curves would make it sleeker, but at this size it just makes it look bloated in a way that harder angles wouldn't have.

 

Not a card I would want to put in a system where I could see it. 

[Spotty]

1 hour ago, RILEYISMYNAME said:

Full context: Historically, I've made every TechLinked thumbnail, unless I'm out of the office. That changed recently - we've got a graphics person making video thumbnails now, which I review before posting. They're not a very technical person, so I'm guessing they didn't know that reversing the image would make it look that weird. Obviously they knew to reverse the text, though. When I reviewed the thumb, I didn't notice anything weird! 

The point is - this was not intentional manipulation to trick viewers into clicking on a disingenuous thumbnail!

I thought it had been done intentionally to make it look weirder and get more people curious to click on the video, though judging by the fact nobody else commented on the image that probably wouldn't have worked anyway.

I noticed something looked off about it but I had to stare at it for at least 10 seconds before realising why the image looked wrong, and it seems like nobody else noticed either, so I can definitely understand somebody who isn't super familiar with building PC's or graphics cards not noticing a detail like that.

 

I shouldn't have been so quick to cry clickbait, but I do appreciate you taking the time to ask about it and follow up on it.