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Hey guys and gals I posted in here a bit ago about comparing two VA monitors but after a lot of researching i changed my mind and decided i just want IPS. So my delima is im set on either of these two monitors but dont know which display would be a better option overall, The LG UltraGear 27GN800-B or the BenQ Morbius EX2710Q. Just to clarify i can get these both at the same exact price.

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1 hour ago, rowdyjosh02 said:

Hey guys and gals I posted in here a bit ago about comparing two VA monitors but after a lot of researching i changed my mind and decided i just want IPS. So my delima is im set on either of these two monitors but dont know which display would be a better option overall, The LG UltraGear 27GN800-B or the BenQ Morbius EX2710Q. Just to clarify i can get these both at the same exact price.

Well if they’re the exact same price it’s unlikely to be an accident.  it probably means that one came out first at a given price and then the other was either built to beat it or was moved up or down in price to compete with it.  Monitor makers pay attention to the monitor market.  So the question might be did either of these things happen?  Monitors have parts.  There is the panel, the controls, and the housing.  The panel is about 80% of it.  LG makes panels but BenQ doesn’t. Traditionally they bought from Samsung originally but I have no idea who they buy from now.  For all I know it might be LG. It’s possible they both have the exact same panel.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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39 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Well if they’re the exact same price it’s unlikely to be an accident.  it probably means that one came out first at a given price and then the other was either built to beat it or was moved up or down in price to compete with it.  Monitor makers pay attention to the monitor market.  So the question might be did either of these things happen?  Monitors have parts.  There is the panel, the controls, and the housing.  The panel is about 80% of it.  LG makes panels but BenQ doesn’t. Traditionally they bought from Samsung originally but I have no idea who they buy from now.  For all I know it might be LG. It’s possible they both have the exact same panel.

So do you think the LG would be better option to buy as i cant find many reviews.

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For this two model, BenQ Morbius EX2710Q had better spec in overall but I can't find much details review of it. 

 

For LG wise it is a so so model.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gn800-b

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BenQ always has the least amount of reviews so it's always a bigger risk buying their products, but so far I am very impressed with mine that I bought and I'd be willing to give BenQ another shot. Been looking at a 32'' Mobiuz myself.

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11 minutes ago, venomtail said:

BenQ always has the least amount of reviews so it's always a bigger risk buying their products, but so far I am very impressed with mine that I bought and I'd be willing to give BenQ another shot. Been looking at a 32'' Mobiuz myself.

In the old days BenQ was one of the “seconds” makers that bought imperfect panels from Samsung and made monitors with them.  It was crossover, BenQ, and one other one.  Crossover is still around, but they stayed in South Korea.

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15 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

In the old days BenQ was one of the “seconds” makers that bought imperfect panels from Samsung and made monitors with them.  It was crossover, BenQ, and one other one.  Crossover is still around, but they stayed in South Korea.

Bit confused by what you're trying to say but I understood is as BenQ used discount parts back in the day and doesn't anymore?

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16 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Bit confused by what you're trying to say but I understood is as BenQ used discount parts back in the day and doesn't anymore?

I don’t know whether they do or not.  Only that they did at one time. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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2 hours ago, venomtail said:

BenQ always has the least amount of reviews so it's always a bigger risk buying their products, but so far I am very impressed with mine that I bought and I'd be willing to give BenQ another shot. Been looking at a 32'' Mobiuz myself.

So do you reckon i should go with the BenQ, the benq is marked down on a sale (specific to a store) thats why i say i can get it for the same price but its worth like a lot more than the LG

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2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Well if they’re the exact same price it’s unlikely to be an accident.  it probably means that one came out first at a given price and then the other was either built to beat it or was moved up or down in price to compete with it.  Monitor makers pay attention to the monitor market.  So the question might be did either of these things happen?  Monitors have parts.  There is the panel, the controls, and the housing.  The panel is about 80% of it.  LG makes panels but BenQ doesn’t. Traditionally they bought from Samsung originally but I have no idea who they buy from now.  For all I know it might be LG. It’s possible they both have the exact same panel.

Well the only reason is that a certain store in aus that i know is having a sale on this monitor when its normally like $250 more than it should so theoretically it should be a better monitor and from what i can find the colours are amazing on it so you reckon the Benq would be the way to go

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8 minutes ago, rowdyjosh02 said:

So do you reckon i should go with the BenQ, the benq is marked down on a sale (specific to a store) thats why i say i can get it for the same price but its worth like a lot more than the LG

I'd say go ahead, especially if you're getting more value with its bigger discount.

At the end of the day you can't go wrong and both will be great buys either way you look at it.

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My personal move would be to look up what panel they actually have and make a decision based on that.  The enclosure will determine what kind of mount it has and the electronics will determine what ports and capacities is has which may matter to you.  If it doesn’t have 120hz monitor capacity and you need to use it as one it’s worthless. What it has for a backlight can matter a lot because it determines black levels and overall brightness.  That’s the panel though.  Seconds monitors don’t meet the requirement spec in some way.  This may be major or minor.  It simply may be that there is too much color shift for copywork or something. Or it may be that the back is wrinkled and the image is not remotely even or it has dead pixels or something.  The floor model generally has no blemishes but the one in the box might.  The move is to turn it to medium gray which will show off imperfections.   I personally find dead pixels to bug me a lot.  Even more than gradation color shift.  Maybe even look at it in the store.

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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After check review for both from YouTube. I will go for LG UltraGear 27GN800-B.

 

Cons of BenQ Morbius EX2710Q compare with LG

  • SDR only 250 nits, this is like 5 years ago monitor and 250 nits will be an issue if your room is very bright (LG is 350 nits) .
  • No respond time changes, 2ms grey to grey is the only available option.
  • Only 120hz if setup as 10-bit (1.07B colors).
  • Freaking tick bottom bezel (good is it is a great speaker there).

 

Cons of LG UltraGear 27GN800-B compare with BenQ 

  • BenQ did better on this case, from review HDRi design by BenQ is actually very good indeed and not gimmick, also BenQ manage to give you 400 nits in HDR. This is still not very high but at least it is better than LG. For proper experience HDR, it is better to have at least 600 nits (HDR 600) and above.

 

 

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Monitor: Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 49" 5120x1440 240hz HDR, LG UltraGear Gaming Monitor 34" 34GN850 3440x1440 144hz (160hz OC) NanoIPS HDR, LG Ultrawide Gaming Monitor 34" 34UC79G 2560x1080 144hz IPS SDR, LG 24MK600 24" 1920x1080 75hz Freesync IPS SDR.


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Mobile & Smart Watch: Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra (Burgundy), Samsung Galaxy Watch4 (Green), Huawei Watch GT (Saddle Brown).

 

Others Gadgets: Logitech Z625 2.1 THX Speaker, Edifier M1370BT 2.1 Bluetooth Speaker, Sony MDR-Z1R, Sony WH-1000XM4, Apple AirPods Pro, Samsung Galaxy Buds2, Asus SBW-06D2X-U Blu-ray RW Drive, 70 TB Ext. HDD, j5create JVCU100 USB HD Webcam with 360° rotation, ZTE UONU F620, Maxis Fibre WiFi 6 Router, Fantech MPR800 Soft Cloth RGB Gaming Mousepad, Fantech Headset Headphone Stand AC3001S RGB Lighting Base Tower, Infiniteracer RGB Gaming Chair

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2 minutes ago, Andrewtst said:

After check review for both from YouTube. I will go for LG UltraGear 27GN800-B.

 

Cons of BenQ Morbius EX2710Q compare with LG

  • SDR only 250 nits (this is like 5 years ago monitor and 250 nits (LG is 350 nits) will be an issue if your room is very bright)
  • No respond time changes, 2ms grey to grey is the available option.
  • Only 120hz if setup as 10-bit (1.07B colors).
  • Freaking tick bottom bezel (good is it is a great speaker) with not my taste of the monitor combination especially that light grey look very cheap..

 

Cons of LG UltraGear 27GN800-B compare with BenQ 

  • BenQ did better on this case, from review HDRi design by BenQ is actually very good indeed and not gimmick.

 

 

The issue though is the stuff he takes home is what matters.  A good example of the BenQ may still be better than a bad example of the LG.  There’s a lot of RNG in monitor manufacture.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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Just now, Bombastinator said:

The issue though is the stuff he takes home is what matters.  A good example of the BenQ may still be better than a bad example of the LG.  There’s a lot of RNG in monitor manufacture.

So far from my own experience, LG is very well control on monitor QC. This is not the case for BenQ.

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Monitor: Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 49" 5120x1440 240hz HDR, LG UltraGear Gaming Monitor 34" 34GN850 3440x1440 144hz (160hz OC) NanoIPS HDR, LG Ultrawide Gaming Monitor 34" 34UC79G 2560x1080 144hz IPS SDR, LG 24MK600 24" 1920x1080 75hz Freesync IPS SDR.


Input Device: Logitech G913 Lightspeed Wireless RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Logitech G903 Lightspeed HERO Wireless Gaming Mouse, Logitech Pro X, Logitech MX Keys, Logitech MX Master 3, XBOX Wireless Controller Covert Forces Edition, Corsair K70 RAPIDFIRE Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE Wireless Gaming Mouse, Logitech MK850 Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Combos.


TV Entertainment: LG 55" C9 OLED HDR Smart UHD TV with AI ThinQ®, 65" Samsung AU7000 4K UHD Smart TV, Nvidia Shield TV Pro (2019 edition), Apple TV 4K (2017 & 2021 Edition), Chromecast with Google TV, Sony UBP-X700 UltraHD Blu-ray, Panasonic DMP-UB400 UltraHD Blu-ray, LG SK9Y 5.1.2 channel Dolby Atmos, Hi-Res Audio SoundBar.

 

Mobile & Smart Watch: Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra (Burgundy), Samsung Galaxy Watch4 (Green), Huawei Watch GT (Saddle Brown).

 

Others Gadgets: Logitech Z625 2.1 THX Speaker, Edifier M1370BT 2.1 Bluetooth Speaker, Sony MDR-Z1R, Sony WH-1000XM4, Apple AirPods Pro, Samsung Galaxy Buds2, Asus SBW-06D2X-U Blu-ray RW Drive, 70 TB Ext. HDD, j5create JVCU100 USB HD Webcam with 360° rotation, ZTE UONU F620, Maxis Fibre WiFi 6 Router, Fantech MPR800 Soft Cloth RGB Gaming Mousepad, Fantech Headset Headphone Stand AC3001S RGB Lighting Base Tower, Infiniteracer RGB Gaming Chair

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2 minutes ago, Andrewtst said:

So far from my own experience, LG is very well control on monitor QC. This is not the case for BenQ.

Well of course LG is a much bigger company AND they make panels.  They do their own binning.  The question though is what bin is that monitor panel in?  There was a guy here trying to buy a Samsung monitor who couldn’t get one without dead pixels.   Samsung makes its own panels too.  They need to be looked at.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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3 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

My personal move would be to look up what panel they actually have and make a decision based on that.  The enclosure will determine what kind of mount it has and the electronics will determine what ports and capacities is has which may matter to you.  If it doesn’t have 120hz monitor capacity and you need to use it as one it’s worthless. What it has for a backlight can matter a lot because it determines black levels and overall brightness.  That’s the panel though.  Seconds monitors don’t meet the requirement spec in some way.  This may be major or minor.  It simply may be that there is too much color shift for copywork or something. Or it may be that the back is wrinkled and the image is not remotely even or it has dead pixels or something.  The floor model generally has no blemishes but the one in the box might.  The move is to turn it to medium gray which will show off imperfections.   I personally find dead pixels to bug me a lot.  Even more than gradation color shift.  Maybe even look at it in the store.

Well i found out that the LG uses a BOE panel (MV270QHM-NF1) which apparently isnt LG and the BenQ actually uses an LG/innolux panel according to display specifications.com (LM270WQA-SSA2, or M270KCJ-K7E) so not sure but maybe the quality of the Benq might be better

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1 hour ago, rowdyjosh02 said:

Well i found out that the LG uses a BOE panel (MV270QHM-NF1) which apparently isnt LG and the BenQ actually uses an LG/innolux panel according to display specifications.com (LM270WQA-SSA2, or M270KCJ-K7E) so not sure but maybe the quality of the Benq might be better

That’s hilarious.  LG is competing against itself.

BOE is iirc mainland China.  Doesn’t automatically mean the thing sucks though. What other devices are those panels in?

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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7 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

That’s hilarious.  LG is competing against itself.

BOE is iirc mainland China.  Doesn’t automatically mean the thing sucks though. What other devices are those panels in?

I can't easily find what other monitors it's in but j know that LG panel benq uses is in the 850-s and and 83as

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