Jump to content

Is prime time 4k gaming almost here?

EnochTheRed

Long time listener... first time caller...

 

I am sure that this question is done to death but its my turn...

 

I usually stager upgrade my pc for Gaming, but with the crypto and supply issues I ended up missing this round for my GPU and now I am in a window of being ready to upgrade the GPU+Monotor OR the Rest of the System .  Now I have to make a decision which side to jump on now...

 

I have been 1440p gaming on a Strix 2080 and 169Hz monitor - it has been wonderful!  So wonderful in fact that I really don't think I can go back to low refresh rate.  Add to this, that I have been really wanting to look at 4K gaming for quite some time now - but again I want to do so at the higher refresh rates and accompanying FPS.

 

Question.. Do you think that the next gen GPUs coming out in the next few months, of either the Green or the Red team, will have the guts to drive 4K FPS that will in turn take advantage of the 144Hz 4K monitors??  Do I sit out this newest GPU round and stay happily on 2K for another generation?

 

There are folks on both sides of this on the www these days, and I know that "wait and see" is really going to tell!   But as you also know, once you start getting the "new build jones" going in your brain, it is all you can think about.  Asking to start getting some temperature form the community so I can start solidifying some thoughts.  What are your plans?

 

Cheers!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

for me the limiting factor is a good 4k monitor.  Its getting closer though as you can now get the M28u 4k 28" monitor for about $500

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

No.  Because as long as 1440p is still a thing that everyone recommends--2160p will be top-end-tier only.  And that applies doubly so for the fact that 1080p monitors are still a thing.  How "mainstream" can something be when 2 generation old resolutions are still commonplace enough to justify new gaming monitors being made?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Probably, but just wait for them to come out. Rumours are useless.

Really, 4k gaming is available now. Just costs a pretty penny.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, TexasBulldog74 said:

for me the limiting factor is a good 4k monitor.  Its getting closer though as you can now get the M28u 4k 28" monitor for about $500

I have been using the M27Q for a bit now, loved their line so much I was looking at that M28U also.  Cheers!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, EnochTheRed said:

.

gpus aren't powerful enough yet, i think next gen will be very close at least. The 3090ti gets about 60fps with rtx high everything else high without dlss on 2077, if next gen rumors are true, we should be looking at 100+fps, which likely means headroom for 99% of other games.

 

Smaller OLED monitor options are preferred, mixed feelings about smaller 4k monitors without true hdr.

 

Nvidia cards are better for 4k+dlss, AMD cards are better for 1080p or 1440p native.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

its not. a ltt ref 4k content. games included .

some time this year video.

MSI x399 sli plus  | AMD theardripper 2990wx all core 3ghz lock |Thermaltake flo ring 360 | EVGA 2080, Zotac 2080 |Gskill Ripjaws 128GB 3000 MHz | Corsair RM1200i |150tb | Asus tuff gaming mid tower| 10gb NIC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, EnochTheRed said:

Question.. Do you think that the next gen GPUs coming out in the next few months, of either the Green or the Red team, will have the guts to drive 4K FPS that will in turn take advantage of the 144Hz 4K monitors??  Do I sit out this newest GPU round and stay happily on 2K for another generation?

 

There are folks on both sides of this on the www these days, and I know that "wait and see" is really going to tell!   But as you also know, once you start getting the "new build jones" going in your brain, it is all you can think about.  Asking to start getting some temperature form the community so I can start solidifying some thoughts.  What are your plans?

I don't think they will have the graphical power to deliver high FPS 4K gaming just yet for anything over 100Hz that will deliver smooth results. The current high-end graphics cards barely just make it by at 60FPS 4K.

 

Will they hit 60FPS 4K, they should if performance increases over previous generation are there. 

 

My current plans are to still be playing on my ultrawide 1440 panel. It's crisp enough where it doesn't feel like going to 1080 resolution and needing AA cranked up, but not at 4K where scaling is an issue. I'll probably still play for the next 3-5 years on this panel before upgrading to 4K. 

CPU Cooler Tier List  || Motherboard VRMs Tier List || Motherboard Beep & POST Codes || Graphics Card Tier List || PSU Tier List 

 

Main System Specifications: 

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X ||  CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler ||  RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18  ||  Mobo: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570  ||  SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games)  ||  HDD: 2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive)  ||  GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming RX 6900XT  ||  PSU: EVGA P2 1600W  ||  Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow  ||  Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB  ||  Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches  ||  Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL ||  Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34" 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

For 4k 60 current high end cards are basically there.

 

For 4k/144 or better in AAA games we are still a couple card generations away.

 

I feel buying a premium 4k monitor right now isn't a great investment because we're sort of on the cusp of new display technologies entering the mainstream.

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

Ryzen 7 5800X3D | ASRock X570 PG Velocita | PowerColor Red Devil RX 6900 XT | 4x8GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mt/s CL16

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I test games at ultra and at 4k with a 3090 ti I am at about 100 frames in most games. 

With my settings I am close enough to 120fps to not make any difference.

It works out perfectly using OLED TVs as monitors.

 

A lot of games that come out do not have the detail in the textures or have poor quality LODs so they look about the same at 1440p as they do 4k. So For years I had a ultrawide computer and a 4k computer. It is only recently that I have all 4k and that is mainly because of OLED.

 

I think if you don't mod games, play building games or sims then 4k is still not a must need. 

I do all three so it is a must need for me.

 

RIG#1 CPU: AMD, R 7 5800x3D| Motherboard: X570 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ

 

RIG#2 CPU: Intel i9 11900k | Motherboard: Z590 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3600 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1300 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k C1 OLED TV

 

RIG#3 CPU: Intel i9 10900kf | Motherboard: Z490 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 4000 | GPU: MSI Gaming X Trio 3090 | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Crucial P1 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

 

RIG#4 CPU: Intel i9 13900k | Motherboard: AORUS Z790 Master | RAM: Corsair Dominator RGB 32GB DDR5 6200 | GPU: Zotac Amp Extreme 4090  | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Streacom BC1.1S | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD: Corsair MP600 1TB  | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I had 4K monitor and I regret that been total waste money due 4K gaming is really stupid and never achieve high FPS even with top tier graphic in AAA games with ultra settings. Now have 32 inch, 1440p, 240 Hz, HDR 600 and very happy. Can easy get decent FPS ~120 in AAA games with DLSS or FSR with RTX 2080. Btw even every gen GPU preformance is increase don't forget that games as well require more and more power with year that mean even with new gen GPU you can't achieve decent FPS at 4K in new upcoming AAA games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Winterlight said:

I had 4K monitor and I regret that been total waste money due 4K gaming is really stupid and never achieve high FPS even with top tier graphic in AAA games with ultra settings. Now have 32 inch, 1440p, 240 Hz, HDR 600 and very happy. Can easy get decent FPS ~120 in AAA games with DLSS or FSR with RTX 2080. Btw even every gen GPU preformance is increase don't forget that games as well require more and more power with year that mean even with new gen GPU you can't achieve decent FPS at 4K in new upcoming AAA games.

"I sold my 2022 Nissan because it wasn't any faster, so I bought a 2005 Mazda instead."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×