Which RAM to buy for my laptop: (Ideapad Gaming 3) | Please suggest the best RAM

[shrey7]

I'm having difficulty choosing the right RAM for my laptop. Please help me.

I’ve been wanting to upgrade my RAM on my Ideapad Gaming 3 (5600H, 1650) for a while now. I currently have 8GB but want to upgrade to 2×16GB.
I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?

I did some research, and I found that these RAMs are the best in the market. However, I don't know enough about this product to decide on which one to purchase. Please help me.

Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 3200 | CL22 DR X8 | DUAL RANK | CT16G4SFD832A
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

As suggested by Amazon, the new model is here with 10 years warranty, not sure if this is a dual rank RAM:
https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT16G4SFRA32A-dp-B08C511GQH/dp/B08C511GQH/

Kingston FURY 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 SODIMM Fury Impact, Black (KF432S20IB/16)
https://www.amazon.in/Kingston-Fury-3200MHz-SODIMM-Impact/dp/B097QLN123/

Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Laptop Gaming Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 BL2K16G32C16S4B
https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-Ballistix-Laptop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16S4B/dp/B083W5ZRJ1/

G.Skill RipJaws Series 32GB (1 x 32GB):
Not sure if this RAM if this a dual rank stick:
https://www.amazon.in/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-SO-DIMM-3200MHz-CL22-22-22/dp/B08J2WGSRZ/

ADATA - Memory SO-DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3200MHZ
https://www.amazon.in/ADATA-SO-DIMM-DDR4-3200MHZ-Premier-3200MHZ/dp/B08CDTWJ5R

I'd like to know which RAM I should buy, am I missing any? Please help me. Thanks

[GeorgeMKane]

7 minutes ago, shrey7 said:

I'm having difficulty choosing the right RAM for my laptop. Please help me.

I’ve been wanting to upgrade my RAM on my Ideapad Gaming 3 (5600H, 1650) for a while now. I currently have 8GB but want to upgrade to 2×16GB.
I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?

I did some research, and I found that these RAMs are the best in the market. However, I don't know enough about this product to decide on which one to purchase. Please help me.

Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 3200 | CL22 DR X8 | DUAL RANK | CT16G4SFD832A
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

As suggested by Amazon, the new model is here with 10 years warranty, not sure if this is a dual rank RAM:
https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT16G4SFRA32A-dp-B08C511GQH/dp/B08C511GQH/

Kingston FURY 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 SODIMM Fury Impact, Black (KF432S20IB/16)
https://www.amazon.in/Kingston-Fury-3200MHz-SODIMM-Impact/dp/B097QLN123/

Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Laptop Gaming Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 BL2K16G32C16S4B
https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-Ballistix-Laptop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16S4B/dp/B083W5ZRJ1/

G.Skill RipJaws Series 32GB (1 x 32GB):
Not sure if this RAM if this a dual rank stick:
https://www.amazon.in/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-SO-DIMM-3200MHz-CL22-22-22/dp/B08J2WGSRZ/

ADATA - Memory SO-DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3200MHZ
https://www.amazon.in/ADATA-SO-DIMM-DDR4-3200MHZ-Premier-3200MHZ/dp/B08CDTWJ5R

I'd like to know which RAM I should buy, am I missing any? Please help me. Thanks

Go with the Crucial RAM. Either the first link or the one after. The RAM in the second Crucial link just has better latency. It's better for newer cpu's, but not performance breaking. I would go with 32GB, like you plan on doing as well, so that you won't have to upgrade again.

 

https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-2x16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT2K16G4SFRA32A/dp/B08C4X9VR5/

 

https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-Ballistix-Laptop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16S4B/dp/B083W5ZRJ1/

Edited August 14, 2022 by GeorgeMKane

[DietzDiet]

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[RONOTHAN##]

I'd probably go for the Crucial 3200MHz CL22 kit guaranteed dual rank kit since it is going to be the most consistently good kit out of all of them. Usually if a kit doesn't say that it's dual rank, it's not gonna be dual rank. There's also the issue of XMP. Basically every laptop I've ever seen does not support XMP, so you want to be buying a kit with a good JEDEC spec. 3200 CL22 is JEDEC (also the best JEDEC spec), so it will work at its rated speeds without needing to mess with memory settings that may or may not be accessible to you. It's also the cheapest kit, so it's what I would be buying. 

[Dukesilver27-]

No one seems to be asking why do you need 32GB of RAM, if you're just gaming then just go for 16GB. 32GB is wasted for gaming. If you do RAM intensive workloads such as editing, sure go ahead with 32GB. 

Again, if just for gaming, don't need to go for top of the line RAMs, the difference would be unnoticeable anyway.

[shrey7]

14 hours ago, GeorgeMKane said:

Go with the Crucial RAM. Either the first link or the one after. The RAM in the second Crucial link just has better latency. It's better for newer cpu's, but not performance breaking. I would go with 32GB, like you plan on doing as well, so that you won't have to upgrade again.

 

https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-2x16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT2K16G4SFRA32A/dp/B08C4X9VR5/

 

https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-Ballistix-Laptop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16S4B/dp/B083W5ZRJ1/

Thanks!! Does the first link you mentioned ram have dual channel? not sure.. 

This does have dual channel: https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

 

I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?
 

[shrey7]

14 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said:

No one seems to be asking why do you need 32GB of RAM, if you're just gaming then just go for 16GB. 32GB is wasted for gaming. If you do RAM intensive workloads such as editing, sure go ahead with 32GB. 

Again, if just for gaming, don't need to go for top of the line RAMs, the difference would be unnoticeable anyway.

Hey Thanks for your reply!! yes, i do need 32gb for work purposes. 

[shrey7]

14 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I'd probably go for the Crucial 3200MHz CL22 kit guaranteed dual rank kit since it is going to be the most consistently good kit out of all of them. Usually if a kit doesn't say that it's dual rank, it's not gonna be dual rank. There's also the issue of XMP. Basically every laptop I've ever seen does not support XMP, so you want to be buying a kit with a good JEDEC spec. 3200 CL22 is JEDEC (also the best JEDEC spec), so it will work at its rated speeds without needing to mess with memory settings that may or may not be accessible to you. It's also the cheapest kit, so it's what I would be buying. 

Thanks a lot mate!! yes, i'm thinking about buying Crucial RAM: https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/.

32GB kit is out of stock https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q7T9NSC/?th=1,

Can i still buy 2x16GB sticks and use them. I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?

[RONOTHAN##]

2 hours ago, shrey7 said:

Can i still buy 2x16GB sticks and use them. I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?

So if possible, you should buy a 2x16GB kit rather than 2 16GB sticks. The reason why is for compatibility sake. There are a bunch of different memory ICs out there with varying levels of compatibility, and with the way RAM manufacturers work, one particular kit of RAM isn't guaranteed to be one specific chip so it is possible to get two different chips that won't work with each other. 

 

That said, you're buying a kit from Crucial (a subsidiary of Micron, one of the 4 main DDR4 IC manufacturers), which takes the 2 dozen different memory ICs possible in that kit down to about 2 which to my knowledge don't have any major issues working with each other, especially at just JEDEC speeds. Basically, the risks associated with buying them are very minimal, and I wouldn't feel bad about buying 2 16GB sticks instead of a 2x16GB kit. If this was from Samsung or SK Hynix, it would be even safer since the memory ICs are actually printed in the part number, so if the part number is the same, they'll work with each other. 

[shrey7]

16 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

So if possible, you should buy a 2x16GB kit rather than 2 16GB sticks. The reason why is for compatibility sake. There are a bunch of different memory ICs out there with varying levels of compatibility, and with the way RAM manufacturers work, one particular kit of RAM isn't guaranteed to be one specific chip so it is possible to get two different chips that won't work with each other. 

 

That said, you're buying a kit from Crucial (a subsidiary of Micron, one of the 4 main DDR4 IC manufacturers), which takes the 2 dozen different memory ICs possible in that kit down to about 2 which to my knowledge don't have any major issues working with each other, especially at just JEDEC speeds. Basically, the risks associated with buying them are very minimal, and I wouldn't feel bad about buying 2 16GB sticks instead of a 2x16GB kit. If this was from Samsung or SK Hynix, it would be even safer since the memory ICs are actually printed in the part number, so if the part number is the same, they'll work with each other. 

Hey, thanks for your reply!!
Although i don't understand much yeah it does makes sense. 32GB kit is out of stock rn. So, ordering a 2x16 dual rank ram from Amazon. Would be buying the same model 2 RAM sticks.

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

 

Hope it works without a prob. Let me know if i should only get 32gb kit. Thanks

 

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

14 minutes ago, shrey7 said:

Hey, thanks for your reply!!
Although i don't understand much yeah it does makes sense. 32GB kit is out of stock rn. So, ordering a 2x16 dual rank ram from Amazon. Would be buying the same model 2 RAM sticks.

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

 

Hope it works without a prob. Let me know if i should only get 32gb kit. Thanks

 

 

 

OK, the Tl;Dr of my first post was basically this: 2x16GB has much better compatibility, but if you're buying the same model number from an actual memory manufacturer the risks of incompatibility are very low so buying 2 16GB sticks individually is fine. That should hopefully work just fine. 

[GeorgeMKane]

9 hours ago, shrey7 said:

Thanks!! Does the first link you mentioned ram have dual channel? not sure.. 

This does have dual channel: https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07Q8TNXKP/

 

I am having a hard time understanding the difference between buying a RAM kit or buying the same RAM individually. Does it make any difference?
 

Yes, first link is dual channel. Comes with 2 sticks of RAM.

[shrey7]

21 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

OK, the Tl;Dr of my first post was basically this: 2x16GB has much better compatibility, but if you're buying the same model number from an actual memory manufacturer the risks of incompatibility are very low so buying 2 16GB sticks individually is fine. That should hopefully work just fine. 

Great thanks for your help!! would be buying 2 rams sticks (same model) hope it works!!

[shrey7]

16 hours ago, GeorgeMKane said:

Yes, first link is dual channel. Comes with 2 sticks of RAM.

Great.. i would be buying this then. https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-2x16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT2K16G4SFRA32A/dp/B07Q8TNXKP/

This is a dual rank stick.. will be buying 2 of them 2x16GB. Hope it works fine. or should i wait and get 32GB kit?

[GeorgeMKane]

1 hour ago, shrey7 said:

Great.. i would be buying this then. https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-2x16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT2K16G4SFRA32A/dp/B07Q8TNXKP/

This is a dual rank stick.. will be buying 2 of them 2x16GB. Hope it works fine. or should i wait and get 32GB kit?

You can do that. Just get two of those. That link has only 1 stick of RAM per order. If it's cheaper for you to do it that way, then definitely go for it.

[shrey7]

On 8/16/2022 at 10:19 PM, GeorgeMKane said:

You can do that. Just get two of those. That link has only 1 stick of RAM per order. If it's cheaper for you to do it that way, then definitely go for it.

 

Thanks man.. finally got my new RAM and installed it. It works fine so far.

Please check attached images and let me know if this is any good. They seem identical sticks. Are they as good as buying a RAM kit?

Do i need to run any tests?

 

@RONOTHAN##@Dukesilver27-Sorry for tagging you guys.. would really appreciate your help here!!

 

[RONOTHAN##]

7 minutes ago, shrey7 said:

 

Thanks man.. finally got my new RAM and installed it. It works fine so far.

Please check attached images and let me know if this is any good. They seem identical sticks. Are they as good as buying a RAM kit?

Do i need to run any tests?

 

@RONOTHAN##@Dukesilver27-Sorry for tagging you guys.. would really appreciate your help here!!

 

It's fine. The only thing I'd be kinda concerned about is that the uncore frequency is so low, but then again this is a laptop so that's probably just a factor in that. Everything else is what I'd expect from that, they seem to be the exact same thing. 

[shrey7]

1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It's fine. The only thing I'd be kinda concerned about is that the uncore frequency is so low, but then again this is a laptop so that's probably just a factor in that. Everything else is what I'd expect from that, they seem to be the exact same thing. 

Thanks bruh!! not sure about uncore frequency tbh. Is this a normal thing in laptops? btw.. is this as good as buying a RAM kit?

I did run a command in CMD and this is what showed up.. should i be worried about it? other than this command, it does work fine with all other cmd commands. 

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

15 minutes ago, shrey7 said:

Thanks bruh!! not sure about uncore frequency tbh. Is this a normal thing in laptops? btw.. is this as good as buying a RAM kit?

 

On Ryzen the uncore frequency is the memory controller clock. It's not uncommon to see Ryzen laptops with very low uncore frequency at half the RAM frequency. A lot of laptops I've seen will have the FCLK (infinity fabric) locked to something like 1500MHz for whatever reason, and because when the FCLK and memory clock aren't the same, the memory controller gets put in 1:2 mode, so thus the uncore frequency is super low. Unfortunately there's probably nothing you can do about it. 

 

And yes, since it seems like everything is the same, it's the same as if you bought a kit. 

 

20 minutes ago, shrey7 said:

I did run a command in CMD and this is what showed up.. should i be worried about it? other than this command, it does work fine with all other cmd commands. 

I've never run that command before so have no clue how it is supposed to work or show up. Given the CPU-Z screenshots and everything I wouldn't worry. 

[shrey7]

Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

On Ryzen the uncore frequency is the memory controller clock. It's not uncommon to see Ryzen laptops with very low uncore frequency at half the RAM frequency. A lot of laptops I've seen will have the FCLK (infinity fabric) locked to something like 1500MHz for whatever reason, and because when the FCLK and memory clock aren't the same, the memory controller gets put in 1:2 mode, so thus the uncore frequency is super low. Unfortunately there's probably nothing you can do about it. 

 

And yes, since it seems like everything is the same, it's the same as if you bought a kit. 

 

I've never run that command before so have no clue how it is supposed to work or show up. Given the CPU-Z screenshots and everything I wouldn't worry. 

 

Great!! Thanks bruh

[shrey7]

1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

On Ryzen the uncore frequency is the memory controller clock. It's not uncommon to see Ryzen laptops with very low uncore frequency at half the RAM frequency. A lot of laptops I've seen will have the FCLK (infinity fabric) locked to something like 1500MHz for whatever reason, and because when the FCLK and memory clock aren't the same, the memory controller gets put in 1:2 mode, so thus the uncore frequency is super low. Unfortunately there's probably nothing you can do about it. 

 

And yes, since it seems like everything is the same, it's the same as if you bought a kit. 

 

I've never run that command before so have no clue how it is supposed to work or show up. Given the CPU-Z screenshots and everything I wouldn't worry. 

So, i just realized that uncore frequency keeps changing from 1596.8 Mhz to 798Mhz.. not sure what's going on.. any idea?

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, shrey7 said:

So, i just realized that uncore frequency keeps changing from 1596.8 Mhz to 798Mhz.. not sure what's going on.. any idea?

It might be some sort of power saving feature then. Never saw that before, but I don't have a ton of experience with Ryzen laptops, so that doesn't mean a whole lot. I wouldn't really worry about it.  

[shrey7]

18 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It might be some sort of power saving feature then. Never saw that before, but I don't have a ton of experience with Ryzen laptops, so that doesn't mean a whole lot. I wouldn't really worry about it.  

 

yeah not really sure about that. I had someone with exact same specs (8GB) run cpuz.. it stays at 1596.8MHZ
My machine jumps between 798.4MHz and 1596.8MHZ