Hypothetically......... 3090ti for 1080p

[Hailpokegodyt]

hear me out. every game: max settings, at least 60fps, most would run 144fps, will play all games like that for a long time. obviously it's expensive but maybe it outweighs the cost of a new gpu every 4-ish years if you're getting a xx50 or xx60 card. i would never do this because you could buy an entire good pc for the price of just a 3090ti alone but it's an idea. and obviously this would be better with next gen (4090 or 4090ti).

maybe this could be explored in a linus tech tips video?

[LIGISTX]

14 minutes ago, Hailpokegodyt said:

hear me out. every game: max settings, at least 60fps, most would run 144fps, will play all games like that for a long time. obviously it's expensive but maybe it outweighs the cost of a new gpu every 4-ish years if you're getting a xx50 or xx60 card. i would never do this because you could buy an entire good pc for the price of just a 3090ti alone but it's an idea. and obviously this would be better with next gen (4090 or 4090ti).

maybe this could be explored in a linus tech tips video?

It never makes sense to do this. If you buy a 3070 now, and a 4070 later, it’ll end up costing less then a 3090ti, you will theoretically be able to make some interest on the money as it sits in the bank (or an investment), and you will get better performance and better newer features with the 4070. And you can sell the 3070 to recoup a lot of the cost of the 4070. 

[Hailpokegodyt]

10 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

It never makes sense to do this. If you buy a 3070 now, and a 4070 later, it’ll end up costing less then a 3090ti, you will theoretically be able to make some interest on the money as it sits in the bank (or an investment), and you will get better performance and better newer features with the 4070. And you can sell the 3070 to recoup a lot of the cost of the 4070. 

ok so the future cost thing doesn't work but everything else somewhat holds up

[Vishera]

18 minutes ago, Hailpokegodyt said:

but maybe it outweighs the cost of a new gpu every 4-ish years if you're getting a xx50 or xx60 card.

It doesn't.

For example the 980 Ti was the flagship of NVIDIA in 2015 with MSRP of $649.99

4 years later the GTX 1660 came out with similar performance with MSRP of $219.99

In 2015 a GTX 960 4GB was $199.99

 

219.99 + 199.99 = 419.98

So the total cost of the xx60 route is $419.98 while the 980 Ti route is $649.99

 

649.99 - 419.98 = 230.01

 

Buying the 980 Ti over the xx60 route results in a loss of $230.01

 

 

[-rascal-]

44 minutes ago, Hailpokegodyt said:

hear me out. every game: max settings, at least 60fps, most would run 144fps, will play all games like that for a long time. obviously it's expensive but maybe it outweighs the cost of a new gpu every 4-ish years if you're getting a xx50 or xx60 card. i would never do this because you could buy an entire good pc for the price of just a 3090ti alone but it's an idea. and obviously this would be better with next gen (4090 or 4090ti).

maybe this could be explored in a linus tech tips video?

 

System requirements for games, etc, are always more and more demanding.

You get a top-of-the-line components now, 4 ~ 5 years later, compared to what is offered then, it is going to be low / mid tier by then.

 

For example, my brother purchased a GTX 1070 in 2016.

As of 2022, the RTX 3050 ~= GTX 1070.

The lowest level RTX 3000-series card.

 

As @Vishera's example, a top-tier GTX 980 Ti from yesterday is like a mid tier GTX 1660 now.

 

IMO you are better off getting whatever you can afford / meets your CURRENT expectations.

And when it can no longer meet your expectations / level of performance, then upgrade.

For some, that is an upgrade every GPU gen, others, it may be every two or three GPU gen.

 

If you play the same game from 2022....in 2026, it won't change much.

However, if you are playing.... X-Game-2022 Edition now, and X-Game-2026 Edition later.

X-Game-2026 well obviously have a higher system requirement to run smoothly.

[ewitte]

Think of it in long term.  After selling my 2080 the 3080 cost me about $400 which may be what I can get for my 3080 when I upgrade it.  Thats pretty much a free card that made $1700 mining.

 

NOTE: I'm looking at a 4090 this time possibly a 4080 or the AMD equivalents.  With DLSS it should handle my maximum 4k120 pretty well.

 

[Vishera]

Just now, ewitte said:

Think of it in long term.  After selling my 2080 the 3080 cost me about $400 which may be what I can get for my 3080 when I upgrade it.  Thats pretty much a free card that made $1700 mining.

The sum you paid for your 2080 should not be excluded from your calculations...

[Mick Naughty]

I got a 3090 to play at 1080p. Would have got a 3090ti if it was the same deal. Wouldnt make any sense to get a lower tier card now now, would rather have the option to go higher res if need be.

[ewitte]

23 minutes ago, Vishera said:

The sum you paid for your 2080 should not be excluded from your calculations...

How far back do you want to go because I remember getting sub $100 with like 8MB of vram.  Before I started mining in about 2013-2014 I was getting $200-300 cards.  

 

300 (buy) - 150 (sell) + 500 (buy) -1500 (mining) - 0 (sell both died) + 600 (buy) - 400 (sell) + 784 (buy 3080) - 1700 (mining) - 400 (estimated sell) 

Total of about (-) 1866 since 2012 or 2013.

[jaslion]

15 hours ago, Vishera said:

It doesn't.

For example the 980 Ti was the flagship of NVIDIA in 2015 with MSRP of $649.99

4 years later the GTX 1660 came out with similar performance with MSRP of $219.99

In 2015 a GTX 960 4GB was $199.99

 

219.99 + 199.99 = 419.98

So the total cost of the xx60 route is $419.98 while the 980 Ti route is $649.99

 

649.99 - 419.98 = 230.01

 

Buying the 980 Ti over the xx60 route results in a loss of $230.01

 

 

Let alone that at the end of the 900 series a 970 would often go for 250$ which was a lot stronger and that card did not struggle playing 1080p games at med/high 60fps + for 5 years. So basically if the 2070 would've done normal it would have been about 350$ which basically means youd have had a good experience for a long time on the 970 and then later repeated it with a 2070 all whilst still spending less than a 980ti.

 

Could also upgrade earlier same thing happens.

[Vishera]

15 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

I got a 3090 to play at 1080p. Would have got a 3090ti if it was the same deal. Wouldnt make any sense to get a lower tier card now now, would rather have the option to go higher res if need be.

Waste of money...

My GTX 1660 gets 60 FPS at all games in Medium-High settings 1080p or higher,

A RTX 3060 Ti is x2 times faster than my GTX 1660 so the performance will be more than enough for 1080p gaming.

So a 3090/Ti for 1080p is a waste of money.

I could also argue that all 3090/Ti are a waste of money and are just wallet milkers.

 

29 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Let alone that at the end of the 900 series a 970 would often go for 250$ which was a lot stronger and that card did not struggle playing 1080p games at med/high 60fps + for 5 years. So basically if the 2070 would've done normal it would have been about 350$ which basically means youd have had a good experience for a long time on the 970 and then later repeated it with a 2070 all whilst still spending less than a 980ti.

 

Could also upgrade earlier same thing happens.

Yep, xx70 cards are good options as well.

[jaslion]

3 hours ago, Vishera said:

Yep, xx70 cards are good options as well.

Especially end of series ones

[Mick Naughty]

3 hours ago, Vishera said:

Waste of money...

My GTX 1660 gets 60 FPS at all games in Medium-High settings 1080p or higher,

A RTX 3060 Ti is x2 times faster than my GTX 1660 so the performance will be more than enough for 1080p gaming.

So a 3090/Ti for 1080p is a waste of money.

I could also argue that all 3090/Ti are a waste of money and are just wallet milkers.

 

Yep, xx70 cards are good options as well.

Sounds like a waste of time. These arent the days I'm forced to run a laptop and barely make 35 frames. 
A 3060ti isnt gonna get 240 frames in my current game or the next. And not all of us are 60 frame mid range gamers. So it isnt more than enough.

[Vishera]

1 hour ago, Mick Naughty said:

Sounds like a waste of time. These arent the days I'm forced to run a laptop and barely make 35 frames. 
A 3060ti isnt gonna get 240 frames in my current game or the next. And not all of us are 60 frame mid range gamers. So it isnt more than enough.

240 FPS - That's a luxury and not a necessity...

[Mick Naughty]

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

240 FPS - That's a luxury and not a necessity...

So it having a 3090 as it would seem. Or else it would make my 240hz monitor also a waste.