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Hi friends.

I saw good deal of 3070 Ti Asus Strix used one for around 700 euros...

Then I looked at performance gain over my 2080 S and is around +20 fps,which ofc lead me to conclusion absolutely would be waste of money.

So my opinion is that only worth upgrade is at least RTX 3080 which costs here like pair of kidneys.

So someone prove me If I am right or wrong.

I saw a lot of difference on yt vids and it is in like 90 % games +20 fps in a favour of 3070 Ti.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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5 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Hi friends.

I saw good deal of 3070 Ti Asus Strix used one for around 700 euros...

Then I looked at performance gain over my 2080 S and is around +20 fps,which ofc lead me to conclusion absolutely would be waste of money.

So my opinion is that only worth upgrade is at least RTX 3080 which costs here like pair of kidneys.

So someone prove me If I am right or wrong.

I saw a lot of difference on yt vids and it is in like 90 % games +20 fps in a favour of 3070 Ti.

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700 euros is not a good deal. Especially knowing your backstory, 20 FPS isn't worth it. 

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I suppose I can agree with that sentiment. But as a fellow 2080 owner, I feel no compulsion to upgrade to 3000 series at all.

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As was said, don't upgrade until there's a GPU compelling enough for you to buy. 

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Even going from a 2080 to a 3080 is largely a waste, depending on how much you can sell your old card and pay for the new one !

You could have a sold your 2080S 2 months ago and be able to buy a 3080Ti now 🙂

But else...

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It isn’t worth it don’t get it, the Rtx 40 series is coming out soon and that’s gonna be a massive performance jump over last gen so wait for that right now that kind of upgrade from a 2080s to a 3070 ti or 3080 is just not worth it get a 4070 or 4080 when they come out instead that’s a much better choice

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4 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

700 euros is not a good deal. Especially knowing your backstory, 20 FPS isn't worth it. 

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Prices in USA and Europe are not the same,not nearly the same, plus 200-300 euros depending on the country.
A strix 3070 Ti is if I remember correctly around 800 euros in mediamarkt.de.

https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_asus-geforce-rtx™-3070-ti-rog-strix-gaming-oc-8gb-lhr-90yv0gw0-m0na00-2740908.html

4 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Even going from a 2080 to a 3080 is largely a waste, depending on how much you can sell your old card and pay for the new one !

You could have a sold your 2080S 2 months ago and be able to buy a 3080Ti now 🙂

But else...

Don't agree at all, 3080 beats a hell out of the 2080 Super,I think almost 50 % FPS gain depending on the game...but 3080 is overpriced here.

4 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Display resolution? 

1440p ultra details RT ON.

2 hours ago, 4PcBuilder said:

It isn’t worth it don’t get it, the Rtx 40 series is coming out soon and that’s gonna be a massive performance jump over last gen so wait for that right now that kind of upgrade from a 2080s to a 3070 ti or 3080 is just not worth it get a 4070 or 4080 when they come out instead that’s a much better choice

I wouldn't count on 4000 series,I'm not Bill Gates,those cards I expect will be expensive as hell.

Besides I don't here in Europe expect that 3000 series will lower the price much,I know why.

4 hours ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

I suppose I can agree with that sentiment. But as a fellow 2080 owner, I feel no compulsion to upgrade to 3000 series at all.

Why not?

RTX 3080 is good choice. 2080 S is in range of a weak 3060 Ti in gaming...so 2080 S has become I would not say midrange card,maybe more like lower segment card.

Yeah hell I paid 700 euros back in 2020 and now for 700 euros I suppose I almost can get RTX 3080.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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1 hour ago, frozensun said:

Prices in USA and Europe are not the same,not nearly the same, plus 200-300 euros depending on the country.
A strix 3070 Ti is if I remember correctly around 800 euros in mediamarkt.de.

https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_asus-geforce-rtx™-3070-ti-rog-strix-gaming-oc-8gb-lhr-90yv0gw0-m0na00-2740908.html

Don't agree at all, 3080 beats a hell out of the 2080 Super,I think almost 50 % FPS gain depending on the game...but 3080 is overpriced here.

1440p ultra details RT ON.

I wouldn't count on 4000 series,I'm not Bill Gates,those cards I expect will be expensive as hell.

Besides I don't here in Europe expect that 3000 series will lower the price much,I know why.

Why not?

RTX 3080 is good choice. 2080 S is in range of a weak 3060 Ti in gaming...so 2080 S has become I would not say midrange card,maybe more like lower segment card.

Yeah hell I paid 700 euros back in 2020 and now for 700 euros I suppose I almost can get RTX 3080.

 

Ok guys, indeed a 3080 is an OK upgrade for a 2080S with display @1440 RT On (especially with RT on ! 🙂 )

Now I can find in Europe 3080s for 800EUR (I use Dropreference.com), not sure where price will go this Autumn when the 4000s will be released, so I'd say do it if you want it!

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6 hours ago, frozensun said:

Hi friends.

I saw good deal of 3070 Ti Asus Strix used one for around 700 euros...

Then I looked at performance gain over my 2080 S and is around +20 fps,which ofc lead me to conclusion absolutely would be waste of money.

So my opinion is that only worth upgrade is at least RTX 3080 which costs here like pair of kidneys.

So someone prove me If I am right or wrong.

I saw a lot of difference on yt vids and it is in like 90 % games +20 fps in a favour of 3070 Ti.

Well, as a minimum you pay money, and you get some more performance. So its not the worst case scenario where you pay money for less performance. Is +20 fps worth 700 euros? depends on your perception of the value of 700 euros.

You brought up the concept of a "worth upgrade" which is totally subjective and down to you to decide as usual.

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2 hours ago, frozensun said:

Why not?

RTX 3080 is good choice. 2080 S is in range of a weak 3060 Ti in gaming...so 2080 S has become I would not say midrange card,maybe more like lower segment card.

Yeah hell I paid 700 euros back in 2020 and now for 700 euros I suppose I almost can get RTX 3080.

Well for me, I get plenty of performance out of my water cooled 2080 for my 3440x1440 144Hz display with the games I play, and, because I have a custom loop, the hassle of taking my gaming PC apart and putting it back together is also factored into my personal feeling on the "cost".

 

There was a time near the launch of 3000 series when I was interested in upgrading to 3080 or more so 3080 Ti, but with prices the way they were it never made sense to me. Now they are lower, but new cards are around the corner, and instead of upgrading my gaming PC I built a gaming HTPC with a 3080, so that itch is scratched for me.

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15 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Well for me, I get plenty of performance out of my water cooled 2080 for my 3440x1440 144Hz display with the games I play, and, because I have a custom loop, the hassle of taking my gaming PC apart and putting it back together is also factored into my personal feeling on the "cost".

 

There was a time near the launch of 3000 series when I was interested in upgrading to 3080 or more so 3080 Ti, but with prices the way they were it never made sense to me. Now they are lower, but new cards are around the corner, and instead of upgrading my gaming PC I built a gaming HTPC with a 3080, so that itch is scratched for me.

I got my 2080 Super specifically for the launch of Horizon Zero Dawn on PC and wanting to play it at 3440x1440. It was a definite step up over my 1070 but I still wasn't really happy with the performance since I wanted to crank the settings. 3080 was the goal but ended up with a 3090 due to availability and boy, 3080 would be the ideal GPU for 3440x1440. 

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At this point I'd probably wait for the 4000 series.

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I mean hmm I am happy with my 2080 S at 1440p at ultra/ma settings, the only game in which struggles is CyberPunk which I don't even want to play.

I cranked even to SMTAA2x in Shadow of the Tomb Raider and I get between 40 and 90 fps depending on the scene.

Yeah in some scenes drops to 40 fps and gameplay is almost impossible.

With DLSS I do get +10fps...game is playable.

On average in most games I play I do get around 80 fps.

But with RT ON almost all games are not playable.

Maybe good choice is to wait 4000 series and newer games,but then again I don't think I will ever have money like I spent on 2080 Super (700 euros).

There is a good deal with 3090 Gigabyte Eagle version (used) for 1200 euros,but hmmm...I don't feel like buying used cards.
Will see what 4000 series brings,not informed at all about specs, maybe like 4060 Ti will even beat 3080 at tests.

 

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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