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AMD Drivers - Are they really an issue?

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So I purchased this card back in late 2020

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089X36WRJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and performance wise it's ran everything fast and no complaints. Except the last 4-5 months, I've had increasing BSOD's.

The errors in the dump have ranged a lot but some have mentioned memory, some seem to relate to storage in general, it's kinda been all over the place. I've tested storage, memory, and tests all comeback fine. There also seems to be no trigger; sometimes I'm gaming, sometimes I'm web browsing, sometimes I'm not even doing anything. At the height of the problem, it was BSOD'ing several times a day, now it's once a week since the windows reinstall. I was pretty sure it was windows acting up but I did a reinstall of windows 10 and it was great for a bit but I'm still getting BSOD's. Not very often mind you, but they're coming every now and then still. And I saw someone talk about AMD drivers causing lots of problems. Since the GPU hasn't changed, I'm wondering if that's what's going on. And if that's the issue, is there an older driver version more stable or anything I can try?

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Ran a 5700 for a year, 0 issues.

 

Been running a 6800 for a year, 1 issue, related to the ultra-low power state feature (meant for SLI and which AMD really should just remove now), fixed by disabling ulps.

 

AMD drivers haven't always been great in the past but any problem people have with AMD cards now becomes part of a memetic narrative whereas any problems people have with Nvidia cards are just treated as random isolated anecdotes. 

Your "PC master race" thing is cringe. 

 

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Not really an issue anymore.

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thanks for the info. Well it looks like I'm down to checking more of those recent dump files and then starting to save money and switching hardware. I'm wondering with how many various errors i've had if it's the motherboard interacting with memory storage etc

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Have run in recent history AMD GPUs for the past 5+ years or so and the worse you could say they do is run the cards with way too much voltage and overheat.

 

Vega 64, RX 570, RX 580, RX 5700XT....all run great...when you tweak the voltages and fan curves.

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For me the recent ones have been very good. I've used a 5500 XT for nearly 2 years with 0 issues and an RX 6600 for a few weeks, with 1 minor issue (power limit resets sometimes when booting pc). Honestly in the month I used an Nvidia card I had more (minor) problems than the 2 years with AMD.

 

Have you tried rolling back drivers? 21.10.2 has been good for a lot of people from what I've heard.

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Just now, Shimmy Gummi said:

Have run in recent history AMD GPUs for the past 5+ years or so and the worse you could say they do is run the cards with way too much voltage and overheat.

 

Vega 64, RX 570, RX 580, RX 5700XT....all run great...when you tweak the voltages and fan curves.

I've never really messed with power and fan curves or any fine tuning. Honestly I've been procrastinating on getting into pc maintenance. Just a lot of stuff going on at home and haven't had time to really get into all the settings and tweak. Where do I start with tweaking the voltages?

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4 minutes ago, Pixelfie said:

For me the recent ones have been very good. I've used a 5500 XT for nearly 2 years with 0 issues and an RX 6600 for a few weeks, with 1 minor issue (power limit resets sometimes when booting pc). Honestly in the month I used an Nvidia card I had more (minor) problems than the 2 years with AMD.

 

Have you tried rolling back drivers? 21.10.2 has been good for a lot of people from what I've heard.

I'll give that a try when I get home from work, thanks! I'm pretty sure I'm on the newest updated drivers

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The symptoms described to me point to a generally unstable system, and not GPU related. Without knowing what the system is, there's three things I've done that have helped when I encountered similar in the past:

1, turn off XMP. It is never 100% guaranteed to be stable even if it seems fine in short term. If this helps as a diagnostic step, then you might try tinkering with ram settings to improve stability at higher speeds. This happens a lot if the CPU/mobo/ram don't agree with each other. Had this on both Intel and AMD systems. Ram that works fine in one system might not work in another.

2a, if the mobo has bad power delivery, reducing power limit to CPU might help. Had a case of this on Intel system. Setting long term power limit to TDP got rid of crashes.

2b, if the mobo has bad defaults, increasing voltage offset to CPU might help. Had a case of this on AMD system. Setting voltage offset to +0.05V reduced the crashes a lot, but didn't eliminate them. Changing mobo fixed it. Mobo was fine with different CPU.

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3 minutes ago, porina said:

The symptoms described to me point to a generally unstable system, and not GPU related. Without knowing what the system is, there's three things I've done that have helped when I encountered similar in the past:

1, turn off XMP. It is never 100% guaranteed to be stable even if it seems fine in short term. If this helps as a diagnostic step, then you might try tinkering with ram settings to improve stability at higher speeds. This happens a lot if the CPU/mobo/ram don't agree with each other. Had this on both Intel and AMD systems. Ram that works fine in one system might not work in another.

2a, if the mobo has bad power delivery, reducing power limit to CPU might help. Had a case of this on Intel system. Setting long term power limit to TDP got rid of crashes.

2b, if the mobo has bad defaults, increasing voltage offset to CPU might help. Had a case of this on AMD system. Setting voltage offset to +0.05V reduced the crashes a lot, but didn't eliminate them. Changing mobo fixed it. Mobo was fine with different CPU.

Yeah I guess my reckoning is due for not going through all these settings earlier. Time to take a bios deep dive it seems

 

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I have amd cards for years, nvidia also. Its the same really. 

 

Issues hapend when you change from nvidia to amd or the other way around, you really need to use DDU. 

 

On this day I think amd wins the cake, the drivers are good to look at, they have loads of options and you can even have an app on you phone to control your gpu. 

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