is 3600mhz ram worth it for alder lake

[planetary problem]

basically, i am planning to build a pc and this was the question- is 3600mhz ram worth it?, the prices for 3200 vs 3600mhz are

3200mhz 16gb kit- ₹5360 (link)

3600mhz 16gb kit- ₹6158 (link)

 

the build-

the only change is the psu to link

[Tan3l6]

I'd go with 3200Mhz and try to overclock, but that's just me.

[brob]

DDR4-3600 CL 18 has performance very similar to DDR4-3200 CL 16. I would buy the least expensive of the two.

[planetary problem]

17 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

I'd go with 3200Mhz and try to overclock, but that's just me.

not really into overclocking that much, i will just turn on xmp and never touch ram speed again

[planetary problem]

26 minutes ago, brob said:

DDR4-3600 CL 18 has performance very similar to DDR4-3200 CL 16. I would buy the least expensive of the two.

one reason to go with 3600mhz ram is because there is no next ram speed until 4000mhz so i may be able to run the ram at 3800mhz or get tighter timings (hopefully without changing the voltage)

[brob]

15 minutes ago, shreshta said:

one reason to go with 3600mhz ram is because there is no next ram speed until 4000mhz so i may be able to run the ram at 3800mhz or get tighter timings (hopefully without changing the voltage)

 

If you want, but I'm not sure even that added performance justifies a 17% higher price.

[planetary problem]

ok but how much will be the performance change?

 

 

[venomtail]

I think only Ryzen is picky about RAM speeds, at that only the APU's are the ones that are picky where you will notice the difference with anything slower than 3600MHz. 3200MHz will be fine.

[planetary problem]

by the way i will be using the uhd 730 for a good amount of time so the gpu will also use system memory

(so is 3600mhz ram worth it then)

[brob]

7 hours ago, shreshta said:

ok but how much will be the performance change?

 

 

 

Difficult to quantify. Dependant on CPU and software being used.

 

2 hours ago, shreshta said:

by the way i will be using the uhd 730 for a good amount of time so the gpu will also use system memory

(so is 3600mhz ram worth it then)

 

The differences are measurable but rarely noticeable.

 

 

[planetary problem]

ok, so the cheaper option it is then

[maartendc]

20 hours ago, shreshta said:

basically, i am planning to build a pc and this was the question- is 3600mhz ram worth it?, the prices for 3200 vs 3600mhz are

3200mhz 16gb kit- ₹5360 (link)

3600mhz 16gb kit- ₹6158 (link)

 

the build-

the only change is the psu to link

Intel Alder Lake memory scaling benchmark:

 

https://www.techspot.com/article/2402-intel-alder-lake-memory-scaling/

 

TLDR: There is absolutely no CPU performance difference between 3200 and 3600 Mhz.

 

That being said, for the iGPU it does matter. But will it be a noticeable difference? Probably not.

 

According to below benchmarks (which is for AMD Vega APU mind you), the difference between 2800 and 3300 mhz is 1-4 fps, depending on the game. Plus diminishing returns above 3300 Mhz, so probably 2fps difference between 3200 and 3600 I would say.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12621/memory-scaling-zen-vega-apu-2200g-2400g-ryzen/3

 

Will you notice that? Probably not, but if you are struggling to get 30 fps, I'd take any frame I can get. The difference between 30 fps and 28 fps is 7%. Considering the price difference on the whole system is probably like equivalent to 6-8 USD (considering US RAM prices), I'd take it. On a system that costs 600 USD, you are spending 1% more, for 7% more gaming performance. In that logic, it is a good investment. 

 

 

 

 

[planetary problem]

13 minutes ago, maartendc said:

Intel Alder Lake memory scaling benchmark:

 

https://www.techspot.com/article/2402-intel-alder-lake-memory-scaling/

 

TLDR: There is absolutely no CPU performance difference between 3200 and 3600 Mhz.

 

That being said, for the iGPU it does matter. But will it be a noticeable difference? Probably not.

 

According to below benchmarks (which is for AMD Vega APU mind you), the difference between 2800 and 3300 mhz is 1-4 fps, depending on the game. Plus diminishing returns above 3300 Mhz, so probably 2fps difference between 3200 and 3600 I would say.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12621/memory-scaling-zen-vega-apu-2200g-2400g-ryzen/3

 

Will you notice that? Probably not, but if you are struggling to get 30 fps, I'd take any frame I can get. The difference between 30 fps and 28 fps is 7%. Considering the price difference on the whole system is probably like equivalent to 6-8 USD (considering US RAM prices), I'd take it. On a system that costs 600 USD, you are spending 1% more, for 7% more gaming performance. In that logic, it is a good investment. 

 

 

 

 

thanks for the generally useful info but I don't know what the performance will be because I don't have the pc yet

[maartendc]

1 hour ago, shreshta said:

thanks for the generally useful info but I don't know what the performance will be because I don't have the pc yet

 12100 CPU iGPU?

 

UHD 730 benchmarks:

 

-Rocket league: about 85-90 fps at 1080p

- CS:GO: About 45-50 fps at 1080p.

 

So that, plus or minus 2-4 fps for the faster or slower RAM probably. Is that worth it? Only you can decide.

 

 

[planetary problem]

1 hour ago, maartendc said:

 12100 CPU iGPU?

 

UHD 730 benchmarks:

 

-Rocket league: about 85-90 fps at 1080p

- CS:GO: About 45-50 fps at 1080p.

 

So that, plus or minus 2-4 fps for the faster or slower RAM probably. Is that worth it? Only you can decide.

 

 

my goal is playable fps and not unbearable app loading times and that is done so the slower ram it is

 

[brob]

2 hours ago, maartendc said:

12100 CPU iGPU?

 

I5-12400 also has UHD 730 iGPU.

[planetary problem]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

 

I5-12400 also has UHD 730 iGPU.

I3 12100 AND I5 12400 HAVE UHD 730 AND I5 12500,I5 12600, I5 12600K,I7 12700,I7 12700K,I9 12900,I9 12900K AND I9 12900KS have uhd 770