System Crashing Under Heavy GPU Load

[ChopstickLeg]

Hello, My system has been experiencing crashes while under any kind of GPU load for an extended period of time. The computer will either freeze up, or display nothing but a grey screen, These crashes have been occurring over the course of the past few months but recently have gotten much more frequent, going from maybe once a month to at least 2 a day, though often closer to 5 per day. The issues pop up either when gaming or when I mine on the side and require me to force a system shutdown to fix. I have tried using DDU to remove all graphics drivers, and this seems to work though temporarily. The crashes frequency will decrease for a short while, but will quickly ramp back up to the numbers I mentioned earlier. I am considering an RMA but wanted to see if anyone had any ideas here before I went through the process. The GPU has been overclocked in the past, and those made the issues more frequent, however the crashes still happen even after I remove the OCs. My specs are as follows:
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X

Mobo: Asrock B550 PRO4

GPU: Zotac GeForce RTX 3060 Ti

RAM: 2X16 GB Crucial DDR4 3200MHz

PSU: Evga 650 GT

SSD: Samsung 980 Pro

I appreciate any help you guys can offer.

Thanks,

ChopstickLeg

[MrMase]

I suspect the PSU may be a little in the fine line, these days I recommend 750+ for Ryzen 5th Gen with RTX 3070 or lower.

[remageppesuig1]

i've had the exact problem with my old pc, I fixed it by replacing the PSU. Iike @MrMase said 650w is IMO a little below my comfort zone with that components, especially if the PSU has already been used for a while

[IkeaGnome]

12 minutes ago, remageppesuig1 said:

i've had the exact problem with my old pc, I fixed it by replacing the PSU. Iike @MrMase said 650w is IMO a little below my comfort zone with that components, especially if the PSU has already been used for a while

 

16 minutes ago, MrMase said:

I suspect the PSU may be a little in the fine line, these days I recommend 750+ for Ryzen 5th Gen with RTX 3070 or lower.

Friendly reminder that PSU quality means more than wattage. Did you know a 12900k and 6800xt run well off a 600 watt? Or that a 5800x/3080(might be 900x/90 can’t remember their exact build) off a 750 watt? 
 

However, the 750 watt GQ is tier C so I agree, but for different reasons. 
Edit:

23 minutes ago, ChopstickLeg said:

The GPU has been overclocked in the past, and those made the issues more frequent, however the crashes still happen even after I remove the OCs

If you use MSI afterburner to turn the voltage down do the crashes become less frequent? If you turn it down too far it’ll crash more, but a little bit will help. 

Edited July 2, 2022 by IkeaGnome
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[MrMase]

4 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

Friendly reminder that PSU quality means more than wattage. Did you know a 12900k and 6800xt run well off a 600 watt? Or that a 5800x/3080(might be 900x/90 can’t remember their exact build) off a 750 watt? 
 

However, the 750 watt GQ is tier C so I agree, but for different reasons. 
Edit:

If you use MSI afterburner to turn the voltage down do the crashes become less frequent? If you turn it down too far it’ll crash more, but a little bit will help. 

My response was tailored to the posted specs but was a typical guideline, if leaning fully into the response I could have linked to the PSU Tier list but was happy with pointing the OP in the correct direction for their specific issue.

[An0maly_76]

What others have said. I run an 850 with my 3060ti. With a 5900X on PBO, I see 450W on average under a hard run, but transient surges can push it as much as 200W more, which is why I went with an 850 over a 750. I was not playing around with this build. Better to have a slower GPU and be able to afford enough PSU to keep it happy than what OP is currently dealing with. And you really want to be more than 10% under your max load limit.

[GuiltySpark_]

Agree 100%, for that system, 600W is plenty. Jumping immediately to that is a little short sighted, its only a 3060Ti.

 

I'd like to know how old the BIOS is on that motherboard. From my own experience with B550, there was a lot of development and stability gained as newer BIOSes were released. 

 

750W here with a 3090@400W and an overclocked 5800X. Wattage isn't everything but the PSU itself might just be problematic. 

[ChopstickLeg]

1 hour ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

If you use MSI afterburner to turn the voltage down do the crashes become less frequent? If you turn it down too far it’ll crash more, but a little bit will help. 

I have yet to try that, I'll get back to you when I have results

[ChopstickLeg]

Hello and thank you to everyone who commented on this thread so far. Just wanted to give all of you an update. I have been trying to get the system to crash at the base clocks to I can mess around with overclocks and using a second power supply to determine the issue. Unfortunately (though somewhat fortunately) I have been unable to get the system to crash at base clocks in the past two days. I have changed nothing about my setup no driver/windows updates quite literally nothing has changed, and the crashes have seemingly disappeared. To answer @GuiltySpark_ question as to what BIOS I am running, it is P2.10. One final question do you guys believe that having my pc plugged into a power strip with other devices on it could be the cause of these issues? Again, thanks for all your help so far.