Bottleneck RTX 3070 with good components?

[LOofymeisteR]

My specs: 

 

Processor    Intel® Core™ i7-10700KF Processor (8x 3.80 GHz /16MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling    MSI MAG CORE LIQUID 240R 240MM ARGB LIQUID COOLER
Memory    16 GB [8 GB X2] DDR4-3000 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory [Free Upgrade to 16GB DDR4-3200 XPG D41 RGB]
Video Card    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 - 8GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready) - [PRE-ORDER ITEM]
Motherboard    ASUS PRIME Z490-P - WiFi, ARGB Header (1), USB 3.2 Ports (4 Type-A), M.2 Slot (3)
Power Supply    750 Watt - GIGABYTE GP-P750GM - 80 PLUS Gold, Fully Modular
Advanced Cabling Options    Standard Default Cables
Primary Hard Drive    1 TB WD Blue SN550 M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD -- Read: 2400MB/s; Write: 1750MB/s
Sound Card    3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card    Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System    Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)

 

 

I've noticed with my build that I've been bottlenecking terribly for a build with a rtx 3070 , I'm getting very frustrated because I can't find the problem. I get micro stutters / fps drops and screen tearing in any game with 144hz and sometimes even just 120hz. My monitor is an asus 144hz monitor so it shouldn't be a problem. Someone please help! 

[LOofymeisteR]

Note: I've updated BIOS and all drivers imaginable. I don't understand why my gaming experience isn't smooth as butter and demanding games get stutters and freezes when it shouldn't. 

[RONOTHAN##]

Monitor GPU usage and CPU usage, as well as GPU/CPU clocks and temperatures. There are a couple things in this system that are very sketchy (the AIO and PSU specifically have both been recalled, and the motherboard VRM is pretty underwhelming for a 10700KF so power throttling is a real possibility) so monitoring that stuff should be able to pick out where the problem lies. 

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## I looked at my GPU and CPU usage and they both seem fine just barely hitting 70% CPU and 50s on GPU while playing cycle the frontier , the AIO died on me recently and my temps have been a little higher than usual but nothing crazy, 70-80's on CPU. also the power supply should be fine. 

[LOofymeisteR]

Also what are your recommendations for monitoring motherboard VRM and stuff? not too sure what I should do. 

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, LOofymeisteR said:

Also what are your recommendations for monitoring motherboard VRM and stuff? not too sure what I should do. 

Use HWiNFO64, that should give you motherboard VRM readouts if they exist (ASUS has the nasty habit of hiding that information on their low end Prime boards, even thought he sensor exists and will do thermal shutdown it isn't user readable). 

 

5 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

I looked at my GPU and CPU usage and they both seem fine just barely hitting 70% CPU and 50s on GPU while playing cycle the frontier

What are the per core usage of the CPU, also what are the clock speeds of both? 

 

5 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

also the power supply should be fine. 

Did you get it replaced? That PSU is known for blowing up. 

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## oh is that so? I didn't know my PSU could be a problem, you think I should buy a new one ? 

[Poinkachu]

2 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

@RONOTHAN## oh is that so? I didn't know my PSU could be a problem, you think I should buy a new one ? 

and the continuation

 

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## If you could recommend me a specific PSU that is better I'd appreciate it 

[RONOTHAN##]

7 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

@RONOTHAN## oh is that so? I didn't know my PSU could be a problem, you think I should buy a new one ? 

Yes I think you should buy a new one, though I don't think it should be causing your performance to be stuttery or anything like that. It's more I just wouldn't be surprised if your system caught fire in the future. 

 

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

Go for an A tier unit, 750W or higher, preferably 850W or higher for future upgrades sake though you only really need a good 750W for this system. 

[Levent]

These issues happen in what games?

[191x7]

2 hours ago, LOofymeisteR said:

Note: I...

Is that a 1080p 144Hz monitor you're using? No wonder the GPU usage lacks cause you have a 1440p system...

 

As for tearing, it has nothing to do with a bottleneck. If your monitor is Gsync capable (and you have it turned on and set up properly), tearing would still be there if the framerate goes above the sync range. Fast sync / Enhanced Sync can alleviate that.

[LOofymeisteR]

@191x7 I'm gonna try fast sync and see how it goes, thanks for letting me know! 

[LOofymeisteR]

@191x7 so you're saying my system is too much for just 1080p 144hz? you're saying if I upgrade it to 240hz or 1440 it should run better? 

 

[LOofymeisteR]

@Levent it's mostly any game, it just doesn't run buttery smooth but that might be because of my monitor being too little to run something so high . 

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## not sure how I check percent core usage / clock speeds sorry I'm newbie when it comes to these things. 

[RONOTHAN##]

23 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

@RONOTHAN## not sure how I check percent core usage / clock speeds sorry I'm newbie when it comes to these things. 

You can monitor it with HWiNFO64. 

[191x7]

2 hours ago, LOofymeisteR said:

@191x7 so you're saying my system is too much for just 1080p 144hz? you're saying if I upgrade it to 240hz or 1440 it should run better? 

 

Yes. Try running super resolution. You'll see smother frametimes and more GPU usage.

[LOofymeisteR]

@191x7 please show me how to use super resolution. 

[LOofymeisteR]

 

 

 

 

this is me playing cycle frontier right now. 

 

@RONOTHAN##

[RONOTHAN##]

15 minutes ago, LOofymeisteR said:

 

 

 

 

this is me playing cycle frontier right now. 

 

@RONOTHAN##

OK, that usage stats are weird. The clock speeds and temps look OK, it's just that unless there was a frame rate cap there should be either a core or the GPU running at near 100%. It's not some sort of hardware issue, it's gonna be something software. 

[alexjzim]

Are you using a DisplayPort cable and G-Sync turned on? If not you will be stuck at 60fps in your setup (assuming the monitor is more than 1-2 years old)

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## I usually do cap my frames. 

[LOofymeisteR]

@alexjzim I have my stuff set to the right frame rate , everything is good 

[LOofymeisteR]

@RONOTHAN## I've undervolted some stuff in BIOS and I also use MSI afterburner for overclock plus cap my frames around 140 fps / sometimes 120 depending on the game since 144 will screen tear.