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Budget (including currency): ~$1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games exclusively. GTA V, Forza, other driving games.

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I have a friend who is transitioning from console to PC gaming. A few years back, his cousin gave him some old parts and I helped him buy the rest of what he needed to get a working PC. It's an FX-8350 machine 😬. Now he's looking to upgrade with a budget around $1000. He'll keep the monitor, keyboard, mouse, case, and storage that he currently has.

 

I have another friend who is looking to offload some parts he's had lying around. A new in box i5-10600K and a Gigabyte Z590 UD which he's willing to sell together for $200. With those cheap parts, I can fit a stronger GPU in the build vs choosing new CPU & motherboard.

 

Since these are friends of mine, I might have some bias on this, so I'm looking for a second opinion on these two build options as a sanity check. Any other suggestions are welcome.

 

Option 1, 10600K build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.00) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z590 UD ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($50.00) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB XC3 BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($594.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1013.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 08:18 EDT-0400

 

Option 2, 12400 build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($519.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1014.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 08:19 EDT-0400

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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The i5-12400 has slightly better performance than stock i5-10600K. My leaning is towards the newer architecture and parts. The disadvantage is having to use the stock cooler. But that and an NVMe are obvious upgrade goals.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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12 minutes ago, brob said:

The i5-12400 has slightly better performance than stock i5-10600K. My leaning is towards the newer architecture and parts. The disadvantage is having to use the stock cooler. But that and an NVMe are obvious upgrade goals.

You didn't mention the GPU so I just want to clarify.

 

You lean toward the i5-12400 + RTX 3060 Ti over the 10600K + RTX 3070?

 

I will do a modest OC on the 10600K with a focus on stability.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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6 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

You didn't mention the GPU so I just want to clarify.

 

You lean toward the i5-12400 + RTX 3060 Ti over the 10600K + RTX 3070?

 

I will do a modest OC on the 10600K with a focus on stability.

 

I didn't think there was enough of a performance difference between the GPU to make a real difference at 1080. So I considered the systems essentially equivalent performance wise assuming an OC on the i5-10600K.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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For 1080p displaty both part lists are good.

Though looking forward - easier to swap GPU and LGA1700 CPU.

 

I edit my posts more often than not

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