How do I make my 32-bit pc to 64-bit?

[PinoyStarter]

I do have an old budget NEC pc. I tried the Media Creation Tool but keeps showing the "exiting intel boot agent". Also tried making the USB bootable but it wont work. but I haven't tried using the "boot to network". Or I should prolly just change the processor?

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

7 minutes ago, PinoyStarter said:

I do have an old budget NEC pc. I tried the Media Creation Tool but keeps showing the "exiting intel boot agent". Also tried making the USB bootable but it wont work. but I haven't tried using the "boot to network". Or I should prolly just change the processor?

Practically all Intel processors since the Core 2 days are 64 bit processors. In the Media Creation tool, are you making sure you're selecting x64 as the architecture and not x86? 

[PinoyStarter]

7 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Practically all Intel processors since the Core 2 days are 64 bit processors. In the Media Creation tool, are you making sure you're selecting x64 as the architecture and not x86? 

yes, i do select the x64 architecture

[BondiBlue]

23 minutes ago, PinoyStarter said:

keeps showing the "exiting intel boot agent"

This indicates that you're trying to boot via PXE over a network connection, not from your Windows installer. Did you choose to start up from the Windows USB drive? Your CPU is 64-bit, so you don't need to upgrade it to install a 64-bit OS. 

[PinoyStarter]

3 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

This indicates that you're trying to boot via PXE over a network connection, not from your Windows installer. Did you choose to start up from the Windows USB drive? Your CPU is 64-bit, so you don't need to upgrade it to install a 64-bit OS. 

right now its running on 32bit even though its a 64bit processor and i dont know how to change to 64bit. and where should i boot from? i dont have an idea because its my first time having a desktop pc

[BondiBlue]

1 minute ago, PinoyStarter said:

right now its running on 32bit even though its a 64bit processor and i dont know how to change to 64bit. and where should i boot from? i dont have an idea because its my first time having a desktop pc

Yes, you can run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor. Lots of machines from that era shipped with 32-bit copies of Windows despite having a 64-bit CPU installed. 

 

You'll need to figure out how to access the boot menu on your computer. I believe F2 is the key you'll need to use in order to enter the BIOS of your computer, though I could be wrong. Give that a try and see if you can get into the BIOS and change the boot order to boot from your USB drive first. 

[PinoyStarter]

6 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Yes, you can run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor. Lots of machines from that era shipped with 32-bit copies of Windows despite having a 64-bit CPU installed. 

 

You'll need to figure out how to access the boot menu on your computer. I believe F2 is the key you'll need to use in order to enter the BIOS of your computer, though I could be wrong. Give that a try and see if you can get into the BIOS and change the boot order to boot from your USB drive first. 

its F2 then i made the usb the priority to boot then it blacks out then the exiting intel boot agent shows up... tried reconnecting every connected wires to the hdd but it still shows the exiting intel boot agent.

[LIGISTX]

58 minutes ago, PinoyStarter said:

its F2 then i made the usb the priority to boot then it blacks out then the exiting intel boot agent shows up... tried reconnecting every connected wires to the hdd but it still shows the exiting intel boot agent.

Just so you know. If you do this it will reformat your harddrive. All data will be erased. As long as you understand that, then yes you need to figure out how to get it booting from the USB drive in order to actually do the reformat. 
 

You should be able to go into the BIOS, change the boot order so the USB device is first, make sure boot from USB is actually enabled, press F10 to save and exit. Then when it restarts it should try and boot from from USB. 

[PinoyStarter]

31 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Just so you know. If you do this it will reformat your harddrive. All data will be erased. As long as you understand that, then yes you need to figure out how to get it booting from the USB drive in order to actually do the reformat. 
 

You should be able to go into the BIOS, change the boot order so the USB device is first, make sure boot from USB is actually enabled, press F10 to save and exit. Then when it restarts it should try and boot from from USB. 

well.. theres one problem.. its the annoying "exiting intel boot agent"... prolly i have to change a new processor or mobo

[LIGISTX]

15 minutes ago, PinoyStarter said:

well.. theres one problem.. its the annoying "exiting intel boot agent"... prolly i have to change a new processor or mobo

Those parts should have no problem running win 10 x64. There is likely just some BIOS setting your missing. You are able to save and exit with the correct boot order tho, correct?

[PinoyStarter]

5 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Those parts should have no problem running win 10 x64. There is likely just some BIOS setting your missing. You are able to save and exit with the correct boot order tho, correct?

Yes, its correct. USB Drive is the priority to boot and i am able to save and exit. 

[Kilrah]

Some old low end machines while they had a 64-bit processor only had a 32-bit BIOS so no way to run 64-bit Windows.

You might want to make a 32-bit Windows installer and confirm that you can boot into that to validate that you're making it right and selecting it right for boot, if so and the same doesn't work with 64-bit you're going to be stuck on 32 with that machine.

[PinoyStarter]

1 hour ago, Kilrah said:

Some old low end machines while they had a 64-bit processor only had a 32-bit BIOS so no way to run 64-bit Windows.

You might want to make a 32-bit Windows installer and confirm that you can boot into that to validate that you're making it right and selecting it right for boot, if so and the same doesn't work with 64-bit you're going to be stuck on 32 with that machine.

so i'll have to change the motherboard?

 

or both the cpu and the motherboard to achieve the 64bit

[Kilrah]

Well do the test already to make sure it's not a problem with you making the USB and booting off of it, if so yeah, probably motherboard change, but then it makes no sense buying a motherboard for a 12 year old CPU unless it's almost free, so at this point it'd be replace everything

[mariushm]

That Intel boot agent thing tells you that the BIOS asked the network card to see if it's possible to boot from network.

It doesn't mean there's a fault with the motherboard or the processor.

 

That usually happens when the BIOS didn't find any devices to boot from, which should be on boot order list.

So basically you have a boot order list in the bios, you're supposed to put "boot from usb" first , then you put optical drives (cd,dvd) then your hard  drives (if any are installed), then you could have other things like floppy disk, network, scsi adapters etc etc

If you disconnected the hard drives and SSDs and you don't have any optical drives, then the motherboard should look for bootable USB devices and if it can't find any, it will probably default to the last measure, asking the network card to search if it's possible to boot from network.

 

Now there's several possibilities ...

 

1. It could be your USB stick was not made properly, and it's not bootable.

 

2. It's possible there's a two step process, maybe there's TWO options in the bios that need to be set to boot from usb - on some motherboards there's an option that let's you say boot from USB devices, and then there's a separate option somewhere else where you say exactly from what devices the computer is allowed to boot so on such computers AFTER you tell it to boot from USB, you have to go in the other option and explicitly say put the usb stick with the labe "win-10" as first boot device. Even if you select boot from usb, because the usb device is not put in that other menu/option, it won't boot from the usb stick.

 

3. It's possible that you inserted the USB stick in a USB port that's "created" by an additional usb controller, and the bios can't recognize devices plugged in ports created by that extra usb controller.  So try plugging the usb stick in usb 2.0 ports, or usb 3.0 ports on the back on the IO shield, those usually are created by the chipset and should be supported inside the bios