Where Are the Cables???

[Plouffe]

Tired of conventional case design and cable management? We know we are, so when Gigabyte sent us a Project Stealth we had to put it together and see for ourselves if there could be a better way.

 

Gigabyte Project Stealth: https://www.gigabyte.com/DIY-KIT/GB-STEALTH-COMBO-IN2181#kf

 

MainGear's Stealth Gaming PC: https://maingear.com/stealth-pc/

 

Gigabyte UD 1000W Gold GEN 5: https://geni.us/8LuBHU

 

AORUS WATERFORCE X 360: https://geni.us/SqsDlz

 

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[SignatureSigner]

3 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

Tired of conventional case design and cable management?

no

3 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

We know we are

but...

I ate all the cables, you mean they were supposed to do something? They looked like twizzlers

do you have a doctor?

[heickelrrx]

That Thermal is extremely bad, I have 12700 System here, and with Mere NH-U12S

my thermal is only hitting 80c during cinebench stress test while only 30-40C on light use, and 50-60 on gaming, that is a budget Single tower air cooler

 

the thing looks something like this

 

Spoiler

Case matters guys

[Remarkable_Day]

I'm expecting wireless power delivery, wireless PCI, wireless watercooling lines, the works.

[darknessblade]

This case is the literal definition of PATENTS Killing off innovation.

[Levent]

I dont have any plans to build another PC any time soon but I am a huge fan of this concept. Hope these become ready available all around the world in couple of years.

[cat milker]

I feel like solid front panel cases (at least gaming oriented cases, office ones are fine) should be a thing of the past by now. It's 2022, and the fact that a big brand like Gigabyte is still making horribly restricted airflow cases is kind of annoying. It is a cool looking case though, just come on Gigabyte, you can do better (or can you, we really don't know)

[Poinkachu]

Well, hopefully it isn't patented, become a mainstream thing, so that atleast we can have it with more cases.

But, since sideways one is rare still nowadays, I doubt it.

[Nystemy]

Actually, putting stuff on both sides of the board is really nothing new. Well, in the PC space it partly is. But in the PCB manufacturing space it really isn't.

 

However, through hole components tends to require hand soldering one of the sides instead of wave soldering it. _{(But most PC motherboards likely don't see the tin wave to start with, since it doesn't really play well alongside SMD components, even when the SMDs are glued in. And yes, gluing in SMDs is a thing. And most motherboards I have seen don't show any signs of having been wave soldered, so either they do an amazing job at masking everything, or they simply use other soldering methods. Perhaps just SMDing the through hole ones as well, smearing in past into the through holes can lead to somewhat decent and repeatable results after all.)}

 

For SMD components, then double sided boards are common place, and a lot of production houses skips gluing them down and simply does one side first, soldering it and everything before doing the other. As long there isn't any drift sensitive parts on it, then it is fine. _{(and with drift I mean a change in electrical specifications due to the fairly high heat of soldering.)}

 

For heavier components, usually connectors, then glue typically is used to hold stuff in place. But some connectors latch into a set of guide holes removing any need for glue.

 

But in the end, there shouldn't really be much holding the industry back from putting connectors on the back, main reason is that exceptionally few cases would support such a motherboard, and likely fewer customers would really have much interesting in it.

 

I also can't help but find it funny how quickly the video went from "this is going to be awesome!" to "Did Gigabyte even test their product?! The connectors aren't even close to fitting..." But at least there were an easy fix for the cooling issue, now the metalwork just needs a bit of filing to give better clearance for the connectors.

[swimtome]

I really really like this concept and have dreamt of it multiple times.  Not even the airflow aspect, but if done well it would make plugging in everything so much easier.  IMHO ka-jiggering everything to the front is the most difficult part of the build.  Sad the first time I see this was bad execution.

 

I can dream of a future where the manufactures actually agree on a standard and make this happen right?

 

(Love the sudden drilling of the holes!!!)

[da na]

39 minutes ago, Remarkable_Day said:

I'm expecting wireless power delivery, wireless PCI, wireless watercooling lines, the works.

Wireless water cooling - it would work like a dehumidifier. Draws moisture from the air, concentrates it into water, passes it over the CPU, then the humidifier turns it right back into moist air. Perfect!

[BA1R]

FINALLY!!!! Is there going to be an AMD version too? Either platform is fine, not a fan boy of either, but choice is always nice.

[NomBread]

[maksakal]

You know 8 years ago I posted about this same exact subject on this forum. It was the reason why I signed up. People there were ready to declare me insane, but now 8 years later, look at me now! @Dzzopethanks for believing in me!

 

[swimtome]

1 hour ago, Ritsu- said:

That was a big oof by Gigabyte, I truly appreciate how genuine Linus was in this video - On the other hand, not a fan of too many memes, specially the "you just have to say you are fine when..."

I agree overall, first one was 'whatever', second one shouldve been <2 seconds.

 

[sub68]

I find it funny when linus just comes in with a drill and drills out the holes

[sub68]

5 hours ago, heickelrrx said:

Case matters guys

Corsair 4000d?

[MultiGamerClub]

If this comes for Lian Li Dynamic XL.. i would switch on the "dime/moment/day" it came out.

[BlueKnight87]

The least is that the ONE component from Gigabyte you didn't use was a GP-P750GM/850GM. That thing killed one of Gamers Nexus' 3080s! Or, the card had another problem that resulted in it sh*tting itself, but that still circles back to Gigabyte coz they produced the card. So they're in the hot-seat for killing one of Steve's GPUs with a defective power supply that they didn't recall immediately when identified as defective *COUGH*NZXT H1 PCIe Riser*Cough*, or they're on the hook for selling him a sh*tty graphics card. Either way, things look kinda F*cked for Gigabyte at the moment.

[IPD]

Love the idea.  Piss poor execution.

 

The next evolution of the concept is hard cabling.  That's really a cinch for a company doing proprietary stuff.  You know the socket locations and where the cable needs to go.  So making a thin, rigid cable to go between would probably work a treat.

 

Of course, given even more time and money, you could also get a fundamental redesign of motherboard to take full advantage of a cable-less setup.  Like where every plug on the motherboard is designed to come out the bottom edge of the card.  Or maybe even 2-piece or auxiliary board configurations; where the PSU, GPU, USB headers, etc--all connect directly to the main motherboard--and the M.2's and maybe even RAM are on a peripheral board which is placed for greater ease of access/use. 

[Quackers101]

same, decent idea, could be developed better for better use and future use.

also sus episode, nearly killed a man with that saw tool. dont have your hand and veins that close, close call.

hope they have medkit equipment in the shop when handling these tools.

[Ultraforce]

26 minutes ago, James Evens said:

The critical question are they trained to use them?

The best medikit with the best signs pointing to it is worthless if you panic or don't know how to use it.

I imagine that there's someone trained to use them. I forget if it was Scrapyard wars or what it was but the logistics manager who passed away in 2020 was trained and was pretty strict about following the rules about reporting any cuts that draw blood as well as putting on bandages for if Linus wanted to continue to do the stuff with a PC that lead to him getting a cut..

[tkitch]

Can I just say watching linus Dunk the hell out of this was utterly fucking hilarious?

DO IT AGAIN, Linus!

[JordNL]

MSI follows stat with Project Zero: https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-hides-all-motherboard-connectors-with-project-zero

[Luscious]

Calling out ATX as a spec is one thing, but you have to remember that it has been embarrassingly obsolete now for decades.

 

The design harkans back to when beige boxes sat on tabletops with CRT's stacked on top. Your mobo was always horizontal and your GPU (if you even had one) was a single slot affair. Those days are long gone!!!

 

In a world where 4 slot GPU's are now the norm, PCIe slots need to be reinforced with METAL to handle the shearing stress, horizontal optical drive bays are gone and PC's require multiple fans (case, cpu and gpu) just to run, never mind keep cool, I have to question as well just HOW STUPID some designs really are. The problem that needs solving is not cable management but rather component placement and component size. We already see this with space restrictions around CPU sockets becoming more of a bottleneck. GPU's also have dimensional limitations. These then present thermal and power challenges that need to be met - two problems that simply didn't exist when those beige boxes were common everywhere.

 

In the server space manufacturers can give ATX the finger by using proprietary designs - there you see dual socket and multi GPU solutions common. With only one restriction (rack width) they can build as deep and as tall as they want.

 

ATX may indeed have been more than adequate for the 486/Pentium days and a Tseng Labs ET6000, except those weren't space heaters that tripped your breaker. For a system like mine that has a water-cooled 8 core and four GPU's, the only case I could build in was a CaseLabs Mercury S8, that also ironically goes back to that horizontal mobo layout so as to better handle the weight of four heavy graphics cards. And funny enough, for all the gear I have crammed inside my case the cable management is extremely well done - you literally have to search for the cables they are that well hidden and concealed from view. Cable management isn't a big deal and can be done well. This design tries to kill a problem only to create another even worse one. Whoever green lit this needs their head examined.