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Few changes:

Intel version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£309.98 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£133.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£193.19 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£22.90 @ Alza)
Total: £1701.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 15:54 BST+0100

 

AMD version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£359.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£134.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£133.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£193.19 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£22.90 @ Alza)
Total: £1751.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 15:59 BST+0100

 

Intel version is usually faster in ST workloads and gaming, and about the same speed in MT, AMD version can use less power when tweaked, but at stock it should be similar.

Budget (including currency): 2000 GBP

Country: United kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA gaming titles, scientific programming/ data analysis

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Complete newb. I don't have any parts yet. Budget is flexible.

 

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gwX74s)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KwLwrH/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-37-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000061wof) | £359.99 @ Scan.co.uk
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-nh-u12s-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s) | £60.31 @ CCL Computers
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/cL3mP6/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-pro-v2) | £207.09 @ Amazon UK
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yg3mP6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2d3600c18) | £129.99 @ AWD-IT
**Storage** | [Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/G9XYcf/crucial-p2-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct500p2ssd8) | £41.99 @ Amazon UK
**Storage** | [Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nF8j4D/crucial-mx500-2tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct2000mx500ssd1) | £145.69 @ Amazon UK
**Video Card** | [Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CqPQzy/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8-gb-tuf-gaming-oc-video-card-tuf-rtx3070ti-o8g-gaming) | £689.99 @ CCL Computers
**Case** | [Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPzkcf/fractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko) | £76.98 @ Amazon UK
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na) | £103.47 @ Scan.co.uk
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **£1872.20**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-05-23 14:34 BST+0100 |

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Looks pretty good to me (unless gaming is the most important), but you're spending £60 on fans which you could probably use for a better GPU.

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Can you make use of 12 cores for scientific programming/data analysis ? If not then a 5700X/5800X would be a cheaper option.

 

You are overpaying for the cooler just because it is Noctua. You can get a dual tower cooler like the Deepcool AK620 for less.

 

That board is expensive unless you wait for stock elsewhere. It definitely isn't worth £207.

 

The Crucial P2 is a bit meh. If your workload involves lots of read/writes then I would get something else. Also SATA SSD's are not usually that much cheaper these days than NVMe. I would just go with a single 2TB NVMe like the WD Black SN750 or Crucial P5 Plus.

 

You might as well get an 850W psu as that 750W is a bit expensive. The RM (2021) 850W is listed at £89.99.

 

I would go with some Arctic P12 fans as they are cheaper.

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Few changes:

Intel version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£309.98 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£133.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£193.19 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£22.90 @ Alza)
Total: £1701.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 15:54 BST+0100

 

AMD version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£359.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£134.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£133.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£193.19 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£22.90 @ Alza)
Total: £1751.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 15:59 BST+0100

 

Intel version is usually faster in ST workloads and gaming, and about the same speed in MT, AMD version can use less power when tweaked, but at stock it should be similar.

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3 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Few changes:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£309.98 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£133.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£193.19 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£22.90 @ Alza)
Total: £1701.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 15:54 BST+0100

You could go for Arctic P14 rather than P12 for not a whole lot more, and then run them slightly slower. Otherwise, this is a pretty good build. I personally have the ASUS ROG Strix B660-A Gaming Wifi D4, and am really impressed with it, it was something like £140 from CCL. On top of the only OP will know if 5900x or 12700f is better for their workloads

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10 minutes ago, CCFC27 said:

You could go for Arctic P14 rather than P12 for not a whole lot more, and then run them slightly slower. Otherwise, this is a pretty good build. I personally have the ASUS ROG Strix B660-A Gaming Wifi D4, and am really impressed with it, it was something like £140 from CCL. On top of the only OP will know if 5900x or 12700f is better for their workloads

Updated the post with a alternative AMD version, but yeah the P14 is probably better, I didn't see it when adding the fans. That MB is quite a bit more expensive currently, but if it goes on sale for that price it would be a good alternative, another option is the ATX version of the board I put in the list, it's less than 10 pounds more for more ports and features and what seems to be the same VRM and similar heatsink.

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52 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Updated the post with a alternative AMD version, but yeah the P14 is probably better, I didn't see it when adding the fans. That MB is quite a bit more expensive currently, but if it goes on sale for that price it would be a good alternative, another option is the ATX version of the board I put in the list, it's less than 10 pounds more for more ports and features and what seems to be the same VRM and similar heatsink.

All extremely helpful. Much obliged.

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So I started with a case the supports the motherboard front panel USB-C port and offers better airflow. Cooler systems run quieter and tend to be more stable and longer lived. The Torrent Compact has been negatively reviewed for its lack of cabling space. A valid concern if one is including lighting, extra fans, an AIO, and SATA storage. None of those items are in this build.

 

Admittedly I'm an Intel fan, even accounting for that I believe an i7-12700F is objectively a good choice. It offers similar or better gaming performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£309.98 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£143.76 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£109.99 @ Corsair UK) 
Storage: Intel 670p 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£147.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card  (£689.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  (£136.84 @ NeoComputers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.96 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1683.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-23 16:54 BST+0100

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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12 hours ago, Zner_ said:

Budget (including currency): 2000 GBP

Country: United kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA gaming titles, scientific programming/ data analysis

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Complete newb. I don't have any parts yet. Budget is flexible.

 

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gwX74s)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KwLwrH/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-37-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000061wof) | £359.99 @ Scan.co.uk
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-nh-u12s-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s) | £60.31 @ CCL Computers
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/cL3mP6/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-pro-v2) | £207.09 @ Amazon UK
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yg3mP6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2d3600c18) | £129.99 @ AWD-IT
**Storage** | [Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/G9XYcf/crucial-p2-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct500p2ssd8) | £41.99 @ Amazon UK
**Storage** | [Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nF8j4D/crucial-mx500-2tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct2000mx500ssd1) | £145.69 @ Amazon UK
**Video Card** | [Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CqPQzy/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8-gb-tuf-gaming-oc-video-card-tuf-rtx3070ti-o8g-gaming) | £689.99 @ CCL Computers
**Case** | [Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPzkcf/fractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko) | £76.98 @ Amazon UK
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na) | £103.47 @ Scan.co.uk
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
**Case Fan** | [Noctua F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b2vRsY/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-5497-cfm-120-mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm) | £18.90 @ Alza
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **£1872.20**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-05-23 14:34 BST+0100 |

That's definetely not my "budget" PC, lol

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