Question

[RazerLeb]

Hello everybody, i'm 15 and i'm building my first pc ever and I had a question if I should get the 6500XT or 1650? ( non super ) I don't do any editing/video recording/rendering or any content creation at all and I don't plan to do any.

Also I only play competitive games so low graphics on everything. I mainly play rust and maybe a little valorant if it matters. Also on my old laptop I used to play on all low settings + 1440x1080 resolution so that's the same i'll be running on this new computer. ( I'm from europe if it matters ) 

 

Prices: 6500XT - 234 euros ( the one I want to get is : ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6500 XT OC Edition 4GB GDDR6 1xHDMI 2.1 1xDP 1.4a ), and the cheapest 6500xt is 223 euros the model : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT, 4 GB, GDDR6 ) 

 

1650 - the cheapest is 214 euros the model : MSI GeForce GTX 1650 D6 Aero ITX OC 4GB GDDR6, and the one I would prefer tho is : Asus GeForce GTX 1650 4GB TUF Gaming OC DDR6 - 256 euros.

 

Computer specifications :

CPU: i3-10100F

MOBO: MSI B460 M-PRO VDH

RAM: 8x1 @2666mhz

CASE: Deepcool Matrexx 30

PSU: SilentiumPC elementum e2 450w

STORAGE: 240gb patriot burst SSD

MONITOR: Aoc 24g2u 144hz IPS ( i'm not planning to get any more monitors since one is plenty for me ) 

 

And the upgrades I'm planning to do are a 600w PSU from bequiet, a new case, upgrade the ram to 16gb ( the first thing I'm doing after getting the pc ), and later on a new motherboard + cpu 

 

My aim with this pc is to achieve atleast 100fps while fighting/shooting. Because with my old laptop I used to play on 40fps all low graphics and many stutters so i'm basically aiming to get more than that so I can have an enjoyable experience ( not saying I didn't have it with my old pc actually made a bunch of memories with it and had a fantastic time even on the low fps ). So yeah i'm still short around 100euros so I'll only be able to get it next month or so.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, RazerLeb said:

Computer specifications :

CPU: i3-10100F

MOBO: MSI B460 M-PRO VDH

RAM: 8x1 @2666mhz

CASE: Deepcool Matrexx 30

PSU: SilentiumPC elementum e2 450w

STORAGE: 240gb patriot burst SSD

MONITOR: Aoc 24g2u 144hz IPS ( i'm not planning to get any more monitors since one is plenty for me ) 

So that's your current system, you already bought all of this and you just upgrade it, okay.

Here's a benchmark ranking with different graphics cards. So, the 6500 XT should be a bit faster.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

 

14 minutes ago, RazerLeb said:

600w PSU from bequiet, a new case, upgrade the ram to 16gb

Sounds good.
If you want a budget case, I like the looks of the Phanteks P300A and the NZXT H510 Flow.

If you want to spend more money, I also like the fractal design torrent series.

 

14 minutes ago, RazerLeb said:

( the first thing I'm doing after getting the pc )

Wait, what? So you are getting this PC (you pay money for it), just to replace everything anyway?

[RazerLeb]

Not right away my plan is to upgrade the PSU,ram,case in 3-4 years or when i start getting super low fps but ram is my number 1 ofc since rust requires 16 gigs of ram.

[RazerLeb]

Yep, i was thinking of getting a deepcool matrexx 55 since my friend got it and he likes it a lot, but i'll keep an eye on the cases 

[Pixelfie]

Get the 1650. You have a B460 and 10th gen CPU meaning you're running PCIe 3.0. The 6500 XT can perform really bad at PCIe 3.0, worse than a 1650 in a lot of cases, so unless you're upgrading to Ryzen, 11th or 12 gen you shouldn't get the 6500 XT.

 

What about buying used? You could probably get something better like a 1060 6gb, 1660, 1650 Super, 5500 XT (yes it's actually better than a 6500 XT). If you're lucky you might be able to find a 1070/1080/2060/5600 XT. When buying used make sure to see the GPU working before buying.

[RazerLeb]

1 minute ago, Pixelfie said:

Get the 1650. You have a B460 and 10th gen CPU meaning you're running PCIe 3.0. The 6500 XT can perform really bad at PCIe 3.0, worse than a 1650 in a lot of cases, so unless you're upgrading to Ryzen, 11th or 12 gen you shouldn't get the 6500 XT.

 

What about buying used? You could probably get something better like a 1060 6gb, 1660, 1650 Super, 5500 XT (yes it's actually better than a 6500 XT). If you're lucky you might be able to find a 1070/1080/2060/5600 XT. When buying used make sure to see the GPU working before buying.

Well see I know that there's better gpu's in the used market but i'm from europe and I can't find any 5500XT , 5600XT used even the 1660 ( normal version ) is 400euros used 1650 super is 330 euros 1060 6gb is 300 euros. And also my parents don't really understand computers so doesn't matter how many times I tell them , they are still saying that I should get a brand new instead...

[RazerLeb]

5 minutes ago, Pixelfie said:

Get the 1650. You have a B460 and 10th gen CPU meaning you're running PCIe 3.0. The 6500 XT can perform really bad at PCIe 3.0, worse than a 1650 in a lot of cases, so unless you're upgrading to Ryzen, 11th or 12 gen you shouldn't get the 6500 XT.

 

What about buying used? You could probably get something better like a 1060 6gb, 1660, 1650 Super, 5500 XT (yes it's actually better than a 6500 XT). If you're lucky you might be able to find a 1070/1080/2060/5600 XT. When buying used make sure to see the GPU working before buying.

And in youtube videos I saw that the person running the exact same config as me was getting around 80-90 fps average on medium-high settings in a very high population server in rust. Except ofc he had 16 gigs of ram