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how do i fix nois on my streaming

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16 minutes ago, Ziondaman said:

ok so i fist did the new streaming test
Links:
streamlabs
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309559550
shadowplay
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309562207
then the recording

strealabs
https://mega.nz/file/9TNhSBhT#WSySsBuIGKYex_IuoGMAFoQ0B2R-WKDlwDYLHXE4O2g
showdowplay
https://mega.nz/file/kSVggCTB#sej2y37O7GouJT4nHM1uyeU7zgbbEYppNpr3r9T3Bho

settings for recording on obs and sadowplay
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From those, the clip from SL is bit better, but still shows pixelation a bit. Not that much that it would really bother anyone. People watch for content over video quality.

 

And you do realize that recordings can't be compared as ShadowPlay has 60000kbps which is 10x more than SL? You can see that the difference is huge. with 60Mbps, the clip is clear. And I think it would remain clear even if you went through uploading it to YT adding YT compression to it.

 

I'm bit out of the game with streaming gaming content, so I don't know whether GPUs age will have effect of rendering quality when its 6000kbps. And can't really test it either.

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Hello LTT Form

my name is ziondaman and i stream < removed by moderation >
i run a old pc hitting around 7-9 years old and sins is so old it cant do so mutch
but i want to stream game call of duty mf and Dying Light but both games fun very noisi and unclear on what i am doing
example: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxaQs1RMnwBQpEzmpV2iVREIzjG4-0Geqp

i use streamlabs and for this exampel i used stream labs
on a bit rate 6000
same thing effect on cod but mutch more

and i run a invidia 1060
so i got invidia sofwere and that streaming stuff
so for fun i ran it and it work 100% better when streaming
much clear
exampel: https://clips.twitch.tv/EnergeticRockyRabbitNinjaGrumpy-XE7eNdlri7_L8d3r

why is this?
i want to same quality that i head on the invidia sofwere on streamlabs
is there a way to do that or not

ps
(if you got questions i will answered them as well as i can
and if i posted this in the wrong channel i am sorry i cude not find where
and just placed it in pc gaming, i am truly sorry)

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Do you use Nvenc on streamlabs?

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yes i even use the "new" nvenc

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-> Moved to Programs, Apps and Websites

 

Please list your PC specs and Internet upload speed. Also when you give exampl, you should use same platform. For me those clips look about same, but I have no way of knowing whether Twitch is 720p or 1080p. Also looks like you are on 30fps which can contribute.

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On 5/22/2022 at 5:53 PM, LogicalDrm said:

-> Moved to Programs, Apps and Websites

 

Please list your PC specs and Internet upload speed. Also when you give exampl, you should use same platform. For me those clips look about same, but I have no way of knowing whether Twitch is 720p or 1080p. Also looks like you are on 30fps which can contribute.

A i see your point

i re did my test same game same fps and same res
1080p 60fps
mw costom game bots

obs:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1491877445

 

invida:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1491881197

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20 minutes ago, Ziondaman said:

A i see your point

i re did my test same game same fps and same res
1080p 60fps
mw costom game bots

obs:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1491877445

 

invida:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1491881197

Looks exactly same for me. You know that you have 5000 as max bitrate. And can you record something with ShadowPlay using same settings to verify its bitrate? If you can't change that manually. Overall it looks like you aren't pushing as high bitrate (max for Twitch is 6000kbps) as you would need to get good quality from 1080p60.

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19 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

Looks exactly same for me. You know that you have 5000 as max bitrate. And can you record something with ShadowPlay using same settings to verify its bitrate? If you can't change that manually. Overall it looks like you aren't pushing as high bitrate (max for Twitch is 6000kbps) as you would need to get good quality from 1080p60.

i did not undtrstand that

 

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5 minutes ago, Ziondaman said:

i did not undtrstand that

 

Which part?

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1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

Which part?

. You know that you have 5000 as max bitrate. And can you record something with ShadowPlay using same settings to verify its bitrate? If you can't change that manually. Overall it looks like you aren't pushing as high bitrate (max for Twitch is 6000kbps) as you would need to get good quality from 1080p60.

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48 minutes ago, Ziondaman said:

. You know that you have 5000 as max bitrate. And can you record something with ShadowPlay using same settings to verify its bitrate? If you can't change that manually. Overall it looks like you aren't pushing as high bitrate (max for Twitch is 6000kbps) as you would need to get good quality from 1080p60.

So you didn't understand anything of that? Ok, well, for me usually when I start something new, I learn the basics. Helps when I then try to troubleshoot issues.

 

Your pic here:

On 5/22/2022 at 9:37 AM, Ziondaman said:

yes i even use the "new" nvenc

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Has two values, Bitrate and Max Bitrate. You also have it set as VBR which stands for Variable Bitrate. Twitch recommends using CBR which is Constant Bitrate. In the pic, your bitrate is set to 6000kbps, but Max Bitrate is 5000kbps. So it will be at 5000kbps. Unless you have already noticed and changed that.

 

As for recording with ShadowPlay, you call it Nvidia in your posts. ShadowPlay is part of Geforce Experience that can be used to record to your local drive or stream Twitch/Youtube/etc. Nvidia as its own might get mixed to NVENC, Nvidia Encoder which is the hardware encoder within your GPU that other software like OBS (and Streamlabs) can utilize. If you record file, we could check from its properties with what bitrate it has been recorded and so see what settings the software is set to use. Unless you can manually set those in which case you should state what bitrate and other settings you are using with it.

 

The last point should be self-explanatory. The footage on both clips looks like you aren't getting enough bitrate to Twitch in order to get good quality results. Twitch recommends 6000kbps for 1080p60 setting (source) which is also max allowed for non-partners.

 

If you need further clarifications, please point to exact points. Sadly, its hard to this any easier than this as talking about tech stuff requires you to understand what terminology means.

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thank you so much for explaining all

the Shadowplay is set to 6000kbps i know this beacus invida and twich partnert to set "perfict" streaming
i have not set my streamlabs to cbr 6000kbps
side note my internet speeds are 200 Download and 250 Upload is that good for 1080p60
and do you think 720p60fps is allso good

here is Shadowplays setting pleace not that every tick is 1000kbps
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4 hours ago, Ziondaman said:

i have not set my streamlabs to cbr 6000kbps

I can see that from your pic... But maybe you should try that? As well as recording locally with both to see whether its actually Twitch being the issue.

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18 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

I can see that from your pic... But maybe you should try that? As well as recording locally with both to see whether its actually Twitch being the issue.

ok so i fist did the new streaming test
Links:
streamlabs
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309559550
shadowplay
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309562207
then the recording

strealabs
https://mega.nz/file/9TNhSBhT#WSySsBuIGKYex_IuoGMAFoQ0B2R-WKDlwDYLHXE4O2g
showdowplay
https://mega.nz/file/kSVggCTB#sej2y37O7GouJT4nHM1uyeU7zgbbEYppNpr3r9T3Bho

settings for recording on obs and sadowplay
image.png.3b3002d953224020816aeedb2501db94.png
image.thumb.png.3db85c944748ea2c5aec10424813e953.png

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16 minutes ago, Ziondaman said:

ok so i fist did the new streaming test
Links:
streamlabs
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309559550
shadowplay
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1309562207
then the recording

strealabs
https://mega.nz/file/9TNhSBhT#WSySsBuIGKYex_IuoGMAFoQ0B2R-WKDlwDYLHXE4O2g
showdowplay
https://mega.nz/file/kSVggCTB#sej2y37O7GouJT4nHM1uyeU7zgbbEYppNpr3r9T3Bho

settings for recording on obs and sadowplay
image.png.3b3002d953224020816aeedb2501db94.png
image.thumb.png.3db85c944748ea2c5aec10424813e953.png

From those, the clip from SL is bit better, but still shows pixelation a bit. Not that much that it would really bother anyone. People watch for content over video quality.

 

And you do realize that recordings can't be compared as ShadowPlay has 60000kbps which is 10x more than SL? You can see that the difference is huge. with 60Mbps, the clip is clear. And I think it would remain clear even if you went through uploading it to YT adding YT compression to it.

 

I'm bit out of the game with streaming gaming content, so I don't know whether GPUs age will have effect of rendering quality when its 6000kbps. And can't really test it either.

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1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

From those, the clip from SL is bit better, but still shows pixelation a bit. Not that much that it would really bother anyone. People watch for content over video quality.

 

And you do realize that recordings can't be compared as ShadowPlay has 60000kbps which is 10x more than SL? You can see that the difference is huge. with 60Mbps, the clip is clear. And I think it would remain clear even if you went through uploading it to YT adding YT compression to it.

 

I'm bit out of the game with streaming gaming content, so I don't know whether GPUs age will have effect of rendering quality when its 6000kbps. And can't really test it either.

ok, well i going to stream some Metro 2033 Redux later and see if it will work but thaks for helping me

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