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Questions from a NAS Noob, Please help with my first setup

Cashac
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So here's the idea:

I want to run a 8TB M.2 PCIE 4.0 3 disk setup on top then down bottom I am considering my options. I am thinking about doing a NAS Setup with a RAID 1 Array together.

The total storage would be 14TB available down below and the 8 TB M.2 for running programs. The M.2's will be holding current editing files, gaming, software and project files. The Storage below will be holding all the old projects, system backups, Old video, perhaps another installation of windows.
 

The questions I wanna ask:

Have I gone overboard with the storage?


Is it safe to run RAID and NAS together?


Have I got the right array type?


What brand drives would be ideal for this?


What size cache would be ideal?


How Would you recommend I run this safely?

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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What hardware and software do you plan to use for this setup? Off the shelf or diy?

 

DO you have 1gbe networking of faster, ssds won't make a big difference on 1gbe

 

HOw many of each drives do you plan on using? 

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8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What hardware and software do you plan to use for this setup? Off the shelf or diy?

 

DO you have 1gbe networking of faster, ssds won't make a big difference on 1gbe

 

HOw many of each drives do you plan on using? 

Yeah I got that. Also in my PC I have 2.5Gb and 10Gb in my motherboard. It will be in my PC. Would it be better to do it outside?

At this stage I'm just thinking 2-3 at the moment.

Currently I'm thinking about 14TB Toshiba Performance running @7200rpm,

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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15 minutes ago, Cashac said:

Have I gone overboard with the storage?

Yes, using a m.2 ssd are overkill, if you don't use 10gbps network, which still under performing since, m.2 ssd can produce up to 30gbps.

If you only have 1gbps network, a HDD in raid 1 will produce 2 times the bandwidth, so i think hdd nas is enough (and cheaper).

 

18 minutes ago, Cashac said:

Is it safe to run RAID and NAS together?

yes, people do it all the time, as long as its a redundant array (no raid0).

 

19 minutes ago, Cashac said:

Have I got the right array type?

Raid 1 is the most common, you can use raid 5 or 6 also.

 

20 minutes ago, Cashac said:

What brand drives would be ideal for this?

all brand should be fine (for Hdd), me personally prefer toshiba or hitachi hdd if possible.

 

21 minutes ago, Cashac said:

What size cache would be ideal?

the larger the better. cache is good if you plan to store lots of small files, for larger files like videos it's mostly not needed.

 

23 minutes ago, Cashac said:

How Would you recommend I run this safely?

more redundancy, good psu, and hope the drives don't fail at the same time.

Ryzen 3600 @ 4.5ghz all cores | Asrock B550M Steel Legend | Radeon RX580 | 2x Samsung 16gb c-die 2666 @ 3600mhz cl16 | 500gb WD SN750 | 9 TB HDD | Deepcool Gammax 400 w/ 2 delta 4000rpm push pull | Antec Neo Eco Zen 500w

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28 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Yes, using a m.2 ssd are overkill, if you don't use 10gbps network, which still under performing since, m.2 ssd can produce up to 30gbps.

If you only have 1gbps network, a HDD in raid 1 will produce 2 times the bandwidth, so i think hdd nas is enough (and cheaper).

 

yes, people do it all the time, as long as its a redundant array (no raid0).

 

Raid 1 is the most common, you can use raid 5 or 6 also.

 

all brand should be fine (for Hdd), me personally prefer toshiba or hitachi hdd if possible.

 

the larger the better. cache is good if you plan to store lots of small files, for larger files like videos it's mostly not needed.

 

more redundancy, good psu, and hope the drives don't fail at the same time.

My current System specs:

ASUS Pro Art X570 Creator MB, AMD Ryzen 5900X Processor
32GB DDR4 3200Mhz Ram

980 Pro 2TB, 512GB M.2, ASUS Zenbook Pro default 512GB drive
GeForce RTX 3060

650W Power Supply, Orico USB C PCIE Controller.

Inside a Lian Li Lancool II RGB


Peripherals

ASUS ProArt PA329C 32in Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV
Lumina 4k AI Camera

LoupeDeck Creative Tool, KeyChon K6, MX Master 3

Shure M7 on a Elgato Low Profile Boom arm

Upgraded Specs within next 6m:

Ram to 64GB 4000Mhz Ram

980 Pro 2TB Gen 4, 980 Pro 4TB Gen 4
GeForce RTX 3080
NAS/RAID setup

Gigabyte G34WQC

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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i dont understand your purpose for doing nas, might as well setup network sharing on the main pc.

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3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

i dont understand your purpose for doing nas, might as well setup network sharing on the main pc.

It's more for remote access - uploading footage when I'm away from the main PC.

I run a video production company so redundancy is ideal and being able to set it up so I can edit elsewhere with minimum latency and easy accessibility. Also minimizing the amount of HD Space needed on my new laptop.

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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you dont need a nas system for that, just use windows file sharing.

NAS afaik is a completely separate system just to store the files.

 

i suggest you buy a complete set of nas system like from synology.

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6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

you dont need a nas system for that, just use windows file sharing.

NAS afaik is a completely separate system just to store the files.

 

i suggest you buy a complete set of nas system like from synology.

So a raid would be a good idea?

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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yeah raid is always good for permanent storage.

i would suggest you buy 3 high capacity HDD like 10-14TB, and using raid 5 you can get 20TB (out of 30TB) space, 2/3 of the space, instead of 1/2 in raid 1.

the tolarence is 1 disk failure.

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