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NAS Idle power - 4790k vs 12th gen

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Hi all,

 

Has anyone got a new 12th gen 12100, 12400 or 12500/12600 running in a low power setup such as a NAS who can provide insight into your idle power draw?

I'm currently using ex-gaming hardware in an UNRAID NAS with a 4790k but power draw is 100w at idle, and that's at stock speeds but with a few things I could adjust. Namely running 6 fans currently with an AIO which I could probably drop for an air cooler and run a few less fans but I doubt I could get it much lower than 80w. This is without a GPU too.

 

I'm not exactly performance limited currently, mostly using the server for PLEX, Nextcloud and a few other services, but it doesn't blow me away or give confidence it will be viable in a year or twos time.

I'd like to start tinkering with more in the future, especially as I both move into my first home and start to acquire more tech to go with it.

 

I've seen suggestions that some people have got 12th gen NAS' running as low as 20w at idle, which based on the current energy rates in my area mean I can cut my running costs by potentially £150+ a year.

That, coupled with future proofing my server needs, seems like a pretty good option as it would cost under £400 to upgrade to 12th gen. 

 

I'm thinking either the 12100, or the 12500, the latter over the 12400 because it's minimal cost to jump up to the slightly better iGPU.

Can anyone shed some light on idle power draw for any of the 12th gens?

 

EDIT to include more specs:

 

i7 4790k stock

16gb DDR3 (4 sticks @ 2400)

Maximus VII Hero

2 x 6TB MG08 Toshiba enterprise drives

1 x SATA SSD

Corsair H100

6 x 120mm fans (differing brands)

EVGA Supernova 850w G2

No GPU

 

 

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43 minutes ago, MrDowns95 said:

I'm currently using ex-gaming hardware in an UNRAID NAS with a 4790k but power draw is 100w at idle, and that's at stock speeds but with a few things I could adjust.

That seems high.

I have a Netgear MS510TXUP, my Zyxel NWA210AX WiFi AP, a 2m LED strip light down the hall (set very low for ambient lighting), a CCTV DVR + two 4k cameras, three small monitors, my Quotom-Q555G6-S05 router, and an 8600k with four HDDs and three SSDs.

 

According to my UPS that usually runs around 125W in total, although being in the UK that's off 240v which is more efficient than 110v.

Router:  Intel Celeron N5105 (pfSense) WiFi: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.44Gbit peak at 160Mhz 2x2 MIMO, ~900Mbit at 80Mhz)

Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, Netgear MS510TXPP, Netgear GS110EMX
ISPs: Zen VDSL (~74Mbit) + VOXI 4G [Vodafone] (~120Mbit) + Three 5G (~500Mbit average)

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46 minutes ago, MrDowns95 said:

Hi all,

 

Has anyone got a new 12th gen 12100, 12400 or 12500/12600 running in a low power setup such as a NAS who can provide insight into your idle power draw?

I'm currently using ex-gaming hardware in an UNRAID NAS with a 4790k but power draw is 100w at idle, and that's at stock speeds but with a few things I could adjust. Namely running 6 fans currently with an AIO which I could probably drop for an air cooler and run a few less fans but I doubt I could get it much lower than 80w. This is without a GPU too.

 

I'm not exactly performance limited currently, mostly using the server for PLEX, Nextcloud and a few other services, but it doesn't blow me away or give confidence it will be viable in a year or twos time.

I'd like to start tinkering with more in the future, especially as I both move into my first home and start to acquire more tech to go with it.

 

I've seen suggestions that some people have got 12th gen NAS' running as low as 20w at idle, which based on the current energy rates in my area mean I can cut my running costs by potentially £150+ a year.

That, coupled with future proofing my server needs, seems like a pretty good option as it would cost under £400 to upgrade to 12th gen. 

 

I'm thinking either the 12100, or the 12500, the latter over the 12400 because it's minimal cost to jump up to the slightly better iGPU.

Can anyone shed some light on idle power draw for any of the 12th gens?

 

 

 

 

How many harddrives are you running? Each drive is a good 10 watts…

Rig: i7 10700k @ 5.1Ghz, 4.8 Ring - - Z490 Vision G - - EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra @ 2025Mhz - - 4x8GB Vengeance Pro 3000Mhz 15-17-17-34 @ 3500MHz 16-19-19-38 - - Samsung 950 Pro 512 NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Samsung 830 Pro 256 RAID 0 Lightroom + Photo work - - WD Blue 1 TB SSD for Games - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - EK Supremacy Evo - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads - - EK Full Cover GPU Block - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - Acer Predator X34 -- Logitech G502 - - Logitech G710+ - - Logitech Z5500 - - LTT Deskpad

 

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Homelab/ Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 64 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x4 TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - 10TB WD Red for expendable data - - Corsair 750D - - Corsair RM650i - - Dell H310 6Gbps SAS HBA - - Intel RES2SC240 SAS Expander - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

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I've edited my original post with my current spec but drive wise I have 2 MG08 Toshiba 6TB drives and a 512gb Samsung 840 SATA drive.

According to Toshiba, those enterprise drives idle at 4.8w.

 

Ran a little test overnight to see how much power draw the power monitor I have uses on it's own and that appears to be just shy of 5w, so total system power draw is more likely closer to 90w but still fairly high. 

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Wow, that's high!

 

My setup:

I5 3570k CPU

LSI SAS1068E controller

16GB RAM

no GPU (using iGPU)

drives:

256GB SATA SSD

3x 3TB WD GREEN SATA

1x 3TB Toshiba 7200rpm SATA

3x 200GB SSD SAS

2x 1.2TB 10k RPM 2.5" HDD SAS

1x 2TB 2.5" HDD SATA

 

Drawing from wall in idle - 66W.

 

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