Does windows 10/11 pro not allow you to have any cracks on it?

[LUC1D]

A friend of mine told me that windows 10 pro has better security than windows 10 home which is why you cant download cracks on windows 10 pro

Is it true?

[Levent]

Wrong lol.

[LUC1D]

9 minutes ago, Levent said:

Wrong lol.

Thanks!

[Vishera]

All Windows 10 and 11 editions use the KMS DRM which as far as i know didn't change much since the release of Windows 10.

[GoodBytes]

18 hours ago, Vishera said:

All Windows 10 and 11 editions use the KMS DRM which as far as i know didn't change much since the release of Windows 10.

I think he means that Microsoft cares about blocking/protecting third party software from piracy. I guess the logic comes from game console, where the manufacturer of the game system is proactive in blocking piracy.

 

The answer is no, they don't even do anything for its own software under it's own OS. Each on their own of what is being followed.

 

Why? 'cause they don't have too. On game console, they have to as a publisher can easily refuse to release their games on the system that has poor or no protection, or be pushed, like on PCs to fight piracy with DRM system that would need to be implemented.

 

The security improvements of Windows 11 is to protect its user and most importantly, their data. It's a never ending race. 

[Vishera]

6 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

I think he means that Microsoft cares about blocking/protecting third party software from piracy. I guess the logic comes from game console, where the manufacturer of the game system is proactive in blocking piracy.

 

The answer is no, they don't even do anything for its own software under it's own OS. Each on their own of what is being followed.

I am pretty sure that Windows Defender blocks files related to piracy like cracks and keygens.

But that is equally done in any edition of Windows 8,8.1,10 and 11.

[GoodBytes]

30 minutes ago, Vishera said:

I am pretty sure that Windows Defender blocks files related to piracy like cracks and keygens.

But that is equally done in any edition of Windows 8,8.1,10 and 11.

Any good anti-virus will do.

As well as packaged executables. I even toyed with this and A/Vs started to flag it. It assumes it is trojans. 

 

Keygen are complicated, because it's not about what they do, more so that they do a lot of work for obstruction not to hide from an A/V or make it hard for A/V to follow a long in what it tries to do, but rather to hide their algorithm from other keygen maker... you can say a DRM for themselves. They don't want their work to be decompiled with ease, stolen and other group/individual takes credit. This is why typically keygen has the group or individual alias name and skin on them (and sometimes signature music) as well. There is a reputation of how good an individual/group is. They have their own community/world.

 

The problem is that many keygen's also include malware/trojan. So, A/V tend to play it safe and flag keygen's directly. Anything that it has a hard time scanning and following along in the code of the executable is often flagged.

 

Now another thing that Windows 11 Defender brings up is PUP, or Potential Unwanted Program. I forgot of it was enabled by default or not, but it is reputation based. This will probably flag anything not popular downloaded online who doesn't have a digital signature associated with its executable. This is not new, Malwarebytes does this, as well as others. You can say it's lazy approach for an A/V. True. But A/Vs always follow the model of "better be safe then sorry". Its role is protect its user and their data. This is a good way to make it harder for ransomware and other malware which does work to avoid an A/V to be a distributed.

[Vishera]

13 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Any good anti-virus will do.

 

True.

13 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

So, A/V as a while tend to just not guess, play it safe, and flag it.

Good,These kind of files are quite sketchy.

 

13 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Keygen are complicated, because it's not about what they do, more so that they do a lot of work for obstruction not to hide from an A/V or make it hard for A/V to follow a long in what it tries to do, but rather to hide their algorithm from other keygen maker... you can say a DRM for themselves.

Didn't know that,Interesting!

 

13 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

This is why typically keygen has the group or individual alias name and skin on them (and sometimes signature music).

In the end of the day it's all about the scene group culture,isn't it?

[GoodBytes]

14 minutes ago, Vishera said:

In the end of the day it's all about the scene group culture,isn't it?

Exactly.

 

So what is one option for keygen's who want to play it safe?

Windows Sandbox! This feature which can be enabled on Optional Features panel, allow one to spawn a sandbox VM of currently installed Windows (no data or program access), which you can download things online and run in them. You can run your keygen, grab the key, and close it which will wipe everything in that environment.

 

Of course, this won't help you for solution that need to host an activation servers, like Windows and Office KMS. As you need it to always run, and you have no idea what it really does to your system. Might be a key logger, might be a timed trojan, might open the doors to later date download malware... who knows... That is the risk one takes with those.

[cretsiah]

On 5/18/2022 at 8:43 PM, GoodBytes said:

Windows Sandbox! This feature which can be enabled on Optional Features panel, allow one to spawn a sandbox VM of currently installed Windows (no data or program access), which you can download things online and run in them.

will that work for those games that want kernel level access for anti-cheat purposes? because i believe that makes the system vunerable if not