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PCIe Slots (Help, Idk what I'm doing)

Help I need to know what this means.

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This is the specs on the MoBo I'm looking at. I'm confused by the 1 . PCIe  x16 being shown multiple times.

All I want to know is if I will be able to use 2 expansion slots. I want to upgrade at some point with a graphics card and a PCIe capture card. 

This is the board: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-p/p/N82E16813119199?quicklink=true

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Well looking at that information, that board has

2 PCIE X16

3 PCIE X1

 

1 PCIE x16 will change speeds depending on different CPU you have installed.

 

So you can have one GPU on x16 slot , another gpu at x16 slot but at lower speed, and 4 pcie cards that only use X1 slot..

 

I have that same board and if say go for it.

 

 

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Yes, but what CPU are you using? It'd be easier to explain.

 

Edit: The Asus product page makes it a lot easier to understand.

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I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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There are two PCIe expansion slots, one run straight off the CPU, the other run straight off the chipset. That said, if you're trying to run a capture card, a lot of the time they have issues running off the chipset, so odds are you'll need to buy a board with x8/x8 support so you can plug it into the CPU. Last I checked the cheapest board that supported x8/x8 support is the B550 Taichi. 

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Just now, Marko Del Vechio said:

Well looking at that information, that board has

1 PCIE X16

4 PCIE XC1

 

1 PCIE

Well that's why I'm confused, because the specs info seems to conflict with what I can literally see on the board. But I'm also no expert. It looks like there's 2 PCIe x16 slots, but It says there's only 1, if I'm understanding it correctly (which is what you think as well)

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Yes, but what CPU are you using? It'd be easier to explain.

 

Edit: The Asus product page makes it a lot easier to understand.

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Honestly I'm just as confused by that.... hehe..

The CPU I want to use is a Ryzen 5 2600X, so 2nd gen I suppose

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2 minutes ago, An_D said:

Well that's why I'm confused, because the specs info seems to conflict with what I can literally see on the board. But I'm also no expert. It looks like there's 2 PCIe x16 slots, but It says there's only 1, if I'm understanding it correctly (which is what you think as well)

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Well yes and no.

 

You have one FULL X16 slot and wired to be x16, that connects to the CPU

and one FULL X16 slot but wired to be X4 runing from the chipset.

 

If you use 2nd getn ryzen you will have pcie gen 3 speed, no biggie imho

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3 minutes ago, Marko Del Vechio said:

Well yes and no.

 

You have one FULL X16 slot and wired to be x16, that connects to the CPU

and one FULL X16 slot but wired to be X4 runing from the chipset.

Ok, that makes a little more sense... but does that mean I can't use them at the same time? And does it being wired as x4 mean I can't use regular x16 expansions?

Someone said something about capture cards maybe not working great off the chipset, could I just put that one into the one wired to the CPU, and the graphics card into the other? Or is that not a good idea either?

 

Sorry for all the questions, PCI stuff is wierd

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3 minutes ago, An_D said:

Ok, that makes a little more sense... but does that mean I can't use them at the same time? And does it being wired as x4 mean I can't use regular x16 expansions?

Someone said something about capture cards maybe not working great off the chipset, could I just put that one into the one wired to the CPU, and the graphics card into the other? Or is that not a good idea either?

 

Sorry for all the questions, PCI stuff is wierd

You put a GPU in x16 full speed slot, otherwise it will suffer from bottleneck due to lower pcie speeds (possibly, depends on the gpu speed)

Other x4 slot is for everything else.

 

Tbh ive been using 6900xt in my main slot, and 1660ti  in second slot for quite some time and never had any issues,

Also using 2 m.2 pcie4 ssds at the same time.

 

Shouldnt be much of an issue.

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Ok thank you guys for the help!

 

Just to clarify, what I've gotten from this is that, if I'm understanding correctly, It should be fine, but recommended that I put the graphics card in the CPU slot, which I think is the top one(?) and the capture card in the other one, which is the secondary slot that connects to the chipset.

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1 minute ago, An_D said:

Ok thank you guys for the help!

 

Just to clarify, what I've gotten from this is that, if I'm understanding correctly, It should be fine, but recommended that I put the graphics card in the CPU slot, which I think is the top one(?) and the capture card in the other one, which is the secondary slot that connects to the chipset.

Correct. Out of curiosity, what capture card are you using? There's a very good chance it doesn't use a full x8 slot and would be perfectly fine in a x4 slot. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Correct. Out of curiosity, what capture card are you using? There's a very good chance it doesn't use a full x8 slot and would be perfectly fine in a x4 slot. 

Currently I use a cheap external HD capture card (via USB 3.0), and that works well for now. But I want to eventually upgrade to an Elgato HD60 Pro. 

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5 minutes ago, An_D said:

Elgato HD60 Pro

This runs at PCIE 2.0 speeds in a x1 interface. While there might still be the issues with running off chipset lanes instead of CPU lanes, you can put it in any other PCIE slot on your motherboard. 

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I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

This runs at PCIE 2.0 speeds in a x1 interface. While there might still be the issues with running off chipset lanes instead of CPU lanes, you can put it in any other PCIE slot on your motherboard. 

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WAIT IT's x1???? I thought it was x16....

Thx for the help and I guess that simplifies it....

I feel so stupid now

 

 

Yep just looked, it's definitely x1

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1 minute ago, An_D said:

WAIT IT's x1???? I thought it was x16....

Thx for the help and I guess that simplifies it....

Yeah it's 1x. It's also very slim. Depending on your GPU you might be able to put it in the top x1 slot. If you use it in a "normal" slot that's not cramped and it gives you issues, try it in the very top slot. Just make sure it's not rubbing on the GPU. Especially if the GPU doesn't have a backplate. 

I hate that ASUS doesn't provide block diagrams for their PCIE lane layout on the Prime boards, but there's a very good chance that the top slot is connected to the CPU and not chipset. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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