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Fixing what YouTube couldn’t.

James
27 minutes ago, creesch said:

You are conflating a solid and maintainable code base with actual functionality. You can have a product that performs exactly according to specifications, but is still a mess underneath. Even if you argue that it could work better or isn't perfect, that might be entirely true, but perfect and good are still not the same thing and in this case more than adequate is still infinitely better than the alternative which is nothing. You are also very much focussing on just one aspect of the bigger argument, making it seem like a very one-sided thing, which it isn't. So if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject I'd be happy to, but before that I would like to invite you to actually respond to the entirety of what I said.

 

No this is the mentality of how shitty code gets written and telling millions of people to download and run it is not a great idea. Thio could have easily implemented an agile or test driven development model with a UML diagram for architecting and readability. Thio knew he was going to release the code to the public so he should have incorporated better development practices. It's simply the industry standard and there are hundreds of tools to help you now days with it. Because as of right now you are defending a plumber for using duct tape to stop a leak because it technically stopped the leak when really they should have replaced the broken pipe as would any good plumber would do. So again no do not promote writing shitty code because someone didn't take the time or effort into learning how to program. A week of learning will save you more time than you will ever "save" by doing it as fast as possible to meet a specific requirement. Input validation and edge case testing are serious cybersecurity points that should not be overlooked. 

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13 hours ago, ThioJoe said:

You might think differently if it was your face scammers were using to literally steal money from people directly below a video you worked hard on. The porno bots are one thing, they're a nuisance. The impersonators though, make my blood boil, and are the main reason I wrote the script in the first place.

I think people don't know how to comment, and the Youtuber should tell people how.

 

Yes, if someone wants to do harm to my crowd and I definitely will do something about it. But writing a script to delete comment does not stop bots nor impersonators, just delay them until you stop updating your script.

 

I think YouTube kinda of use "comment section" as a indicator for the recommendation algorithm at one point, which make a lot of creators ask their viewers to comment. As the saying goes, "It takes all sorts to make the world"; and making it worse, YouTube does not have a effective way to regulate.

 

However, all the creators can take the responsibility saving their comment section.

 

If asking for subscribers is effective, then I suggest "Like, subscribe, and comment" could be change into "Like, subscribe, and don't make bad comments". It might not only drive more viewers to check the comments, to see if there is any bad comments, and maybe actually leave a comment after checking a lot of them.

 

I have a game server, and I found out that the top reason why my players breaking the server rules is they don't know that is against the rules. I strongly believe why impersonators exist is they don't think it will cause trouble and consider "copy&paste" is funny.

 

Bilibili, you might heard of, which more or less is the Chinese YouTube, has a VERY STRONG culture by the users to report any inappropriate comments when encounter (to be clear, it does not require by the government, it technically is a site rule), which might be the medicine for YouTube as well.

 

Yes, encouraging people to report inappropriate comments does not stop people making bad comments, but at least it will let people know how to comment over time, including "do not be an impersonators".

 

Okay, I do not speak human language a lot, so somewhere in my essay might not make sense.

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38 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

No this is the mentality of how shitty code gets written and telling millions of people to download and run it is not a great idea. Thio could have easily implemented an agile or test driven development model with a UML diagram for architecting and readability. Thio knew he was going to release the code to the public so he should have incorporated better development practices. It's simply the industry standard and there are hundreds of tools to help you now days with it. Because as of right now you are defending a plumber for using duct tape to stop a leak because it technically stopped the leak when really they should have replaced the broken pipe as would any good plumber would do. So again no do not promote writing shitty code because someone didn't take the time or effort into learning how to program. A week of learning will save you more time than you will ever "save" by doing it as fast as possible to meet a specific requirement. Input validation and edge case testing are serious cybersecurity points that should not be overlooked. 

 

Yes you already pretty much said this verbatim in your previous reply which makes this a circular argument you seem to be stuck in as you don't seem to bother reading much of what I wrote or are plain ignoring it. To be a bit more clear, you are dismissing the entire concept of community created and maintained tools based on the way this specific product was developed. You did this in your first comment in this thread, and you keep doing it in a circular pattern, repeating the same narrow banded binary statement as if that is the entirety of the concept. Meanwhile, I have been trying to show you that the entire concept of community maintained products to moderate a platform isn't as ridiculous as you make it out to be, as those already are out there and have been for a decade on platforms like reddit and years on platforms like discord. 

 

Even if the code of the project is as bad as you have said. Something you haven't actually shown other than some broad hand wavy statements. It can still very much be a kick-starter for other projects to approach the issue with proper code. Or if the code is actually salvageable, guess what, it is open source you can contribute to it and actually improve it. Something that wouldn't have happened if they had kept working on it without making it public.  

 

Hell, even some bigger, very successful open source projects with a solid code base that are around today started out a bit of a mess. 

 

Now, if you do respond again, please let it be something else than "the code is bad, therefore the concept is bad and everything around it is bad". 

There aren't many subjects that benefit from binary takes on them in a discussion.

 

 

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1 hour ago, creesch said:

 

Yes you already pretty much said this verbatim in your previous reply which makes this a circular argument you seem to be stuck in as you don't seem to bother reading much of what I wrote or are plain ignoring it. To be a bit more clear, you are dismissing the entire concept of community created and maintained tools based on the way this specific product was developed. You did this in your first comment in this thread, and you keep doing it in a circular pattern, repeating the same narrow banded binary statement as if that is the entirety of the concept. Meanwhile, I have been trying to show you that the entire concept of community maintained products to moderate a platform isn't as ridiculous as you make it out to be, as those already are out there and have been for a decade on platforms like reddit and years on platforms like discord. 

 

Even if the code of the project is as bad as you have said. Something you haven't actually shown other than some broad hand wavy statements. It can still very much be a kick-starter for other projects to approach the issue with proper code. Or if the code is actually salvageable, guess what, it is open source you can contribute to it and actually improve it. Something that wouldn't have happened if they had kept working on it without making it public.  

 

Hell, even some bigger, very successful open source projects with a solid code base that are around today started out a bit of a mess. 

 

Now, if you do respond again, please let it be something else than "the code is bad, therefore the concept is bad and everything around it is bad". 

Hahaha what. I have no idea where you are getting all these ideas from. I haven't said anything in reference to community or open source tools nor did I say the concept is bad. I said the execution was bad because it was. Given the choice to do it well or not you are actively defending doing it shitty is the better option. Well it's not and if he wanted others to contribute making the code readable/clean or a UML would allow for more people to contribute making it better. As well as making a different style of video instead of I made this tool to fix this issue you should use to calling on the community for developmental support with a later release video. Because now LTT and others have created videos on it shoving it down your throats to use as well as letting the bot farms know their method of detection.

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15 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Hahaha what. I have no idea where you are getting all these ideas from. I haven't said anything in reference to community or open source tools nor did I say the concept is bad. I said the execution was bad because it was. Given the choice to do it well or not you are actively defending doing it shitty is the better option. Well it's not and if he wanted others to contribute making the code readable/clean or a UML would allow for more people to contribute making it better. As well as making a different style of video instead of I made this tool to fix this issue you should use to calling on the community for developmental support with a later release video. Because now LTT and others have created videos on it shoving it down your throats to use as well as letting the bot farms know their method of detection.

Oh? So you are saying that in your initial comment you didn't say this shouldn't have been given any attention? And you also didn't say that this should have been left to Alphabet to fix instead of the community stepping in themselves? In the process, completely dismissing even the notion that the community can actually step in and provide solutions themselves?  Yeah sorry, my bad, I have no idea where I got that notion from... 

  

20 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Damn LTT should not have made a video on this. The code is messy, has tons of deprecated features still laying around, bad comments, could be much more efficient, and the "hidden" method he uses is very basic and already bypassed. So really all that has been done is congesting Youtube's reporting system and creating a false perception of combating the problem. 

 

Alphabet has infinitely more resources than ThioJoe and access to the source code of Youtube. So I would have much rather seen a PSA style of video calling upon Youtube to take action rather than a script kiddie creating headaches for Youtube devs.

 

I can't even imagine why I even got it in my head that after that you kept purely focussing on code quality, completely ignoring anything else I was bringing to the table. Must also have been just a fever dream on my end. 

 

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22 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Damn LTT should not have made a video on this. The code is messy, has tons of deprecated features still laying around.... So I would have much rather seen a PSA style of video calling upon Youtube to take action...

 

1 hour ago, creesch said:

Oh? So you are saying that in your initial comment you didn't say this shouldn't have been given any attention? And you also didn't say that this should have been left to Alphabet to fix instead of the community stepping in themselves? In the process, completely dismissing even the notion that the community can actually step in and provide solutions themselves?  Yeah sorry, my bad, I have no idea where I got that notion from... 

Yeah if you read you can see where you became misguided with what I had said before. Also calling upon Youtube to take action doesn't instantly mean leaving it all on Youtube and simply hoping for the best. You can protest for change and call upon authorities to take action while also working as a community to fix the problem. You can see this everywhere in the world with support groups for minorities and so on. 

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I'll have to set this up on my server.. Could endlessly search and report comments.

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Just an experience.. My youtube channel is nothing. I have 27 subscribers, but I get an occasional comment.I wondered what this would do for my channel. It flagged a fellow youtuber's comment as spam. It is the only one and he is definitely not spam. So that is a confirmed false positive. But I was using NUKE mode. I was looking for documentation on how to run it against other's channels for 'reporting' only.

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Wow this would be awesome if YouTube would actually implement it. But unfortunately they probably won't do, and if they do it it's gonna take forever.

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Can anyone help me?
When i type: ' REPORT ', it doesn't read it...image.png.1271cb191190a58a6af001f267bc14ff.png

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As a content creator, I will agree that YouTube has a spam problem. There is also a problem with misleading ads

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  • 4 weeks later...
On 2/8/2022 at 1:10 AM, TweakBox said:

Can anyone help me?
When i type: ' REPORT ', it doesn't read it...image.png.1271cb191190a58a6af001f267bc14ff.png

I notice that your version does not have the text (Not Case Sensitive) like in my screenshot.
I would reinstall the script with the latest version.

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EDIT: Just realized that the script has an update option. #9 on the main menu.

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