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AGreninja101
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Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

Drop the Hyper 212 and get it later on, the stock cooler should do enough to get the build running. You probably don't need 32 GB of RAM for this system, You can get by with a lower wattage PSU.

 

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I wouldn't go down with wattage, as power supply is often longest-lasting PC part and having a headroom for upgrades is good. Also, longevity and silence is better if you run below 100%. Also, as far as I understand graphs, best efficiency is usually between 50% and 75% of rated power on most PSUs.

I agree with dropping the cooler and maybe buying half of the ram at the moment. For monitor, I strongly doubt if you need anything above 120 / 144 Hz. It is very personal decision, but think about it once more.

 

Video card is what it is, we all know how the market looks nowadays.

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Here's the problem ... your system's gonna suck at future upgrades. 

 

You chose a motherboard that doesn't have any heatsinks on the VRM so it's probably barely good enough for that 12400 you chose. If you would plan to upgrade in the future to something more powerful,  most likely the VRM would overheat and throttle the CPU (keep it running at lower frequencies) or maybe there's a setting in the BIOS to force processors to not go above some threshold when it comes to power consumption.

The board is also quite spartan ... only 4 USB ports on the back? The chipset also won't allow CPU overclocking ... so really you're paying the Intel tax with those $173..

 

If you're absolutely sure you won't upgrade that CPU, I guess it's fine... but then again  you'd get the same performance now with a Ryzen 5600x and a 65$ A520 motherboard,

 

For example,

448$ Ryzen 5600x with stock cooler included : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box

  65$ Gigabyte A520M DS3H https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7R7p99/gigabyte-a520m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-a520m-ds3h

 

and you get 2 extra usb ports on the back.  Works out to $513, you combo cpu+cooler+mobo is $536

 

BUT, if it's just for "minecraft and minecraft  server"  you could save MUCH more by going with a 5600g, which has integrated graphics so you don't have to spend money on graphics.

 

$349 Ryzen 5600g : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/sYmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-39-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000252box

$79   Gigabyte A520M S2H : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/HVK2FT/gigabyte-a520m-s2h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-a520m-s2h

 

Different motherboard because this one has bios flashback which may be required to update the bios, to support 5600g  (some A520 motherboards are still shipped with a BIOS that doesn't support 5600g by default, so bios flashback allows you to update bios without cpu, just by plugging a usb stick with the bios and pressing a button.

 

If you were just lazy and you plan to use it for other games or for upgrades to better CPUs in the future, really consider changing that motherboard as it's barebones and sucks.

 

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11 hours ago, mariushm said:

Here's the problem ... your system's gonna suck at future upgrades. 

 

You chose a motherboard that doesn't have any heatsinks on the VRM so it's probably barely good enough for that 12400 you chose. If you would plan to upgrade in the future to something more powerful,  most likely the VRM would overheat and throttle the CPU (keep it running at lower frequencies) or maybe there's a setting in the BIOS to force processors to not go above some threshold when it comes to power consumption.

The board is also quite spartan ... only 4 USB ports on the back? The chipset also won't allow CPU overclocking ... so really you're paying the Intel tax with those $173..

 

If you're absolutely sure you won't upgrade that CPU, I guess it's fine... but then again  you'd get the same performance now with a Ryzen 5600x and a 65$ A520 motherboard,

 

For example,

448$ Ryzen 5600x with stock cooler included : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box

  65$ Gigabyte A520M DS3H https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7R7p99/gigabyte-a520m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-a520m-ds3h

 

and you get 2 extra usb ports on the back.  Works out to $513, you combo cpu+cooler+mobo is $536

 

BUT, if it's just for "minecraft and minecraft  server"  you could save MUCH more by going with a 5600g, which has integrated graphics so you don't have to spend money on graphics.

 

$349 Ryzen 5600g : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/sYmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-39-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000252box

$79   Gigabyte A520M S2H : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/HVK2FT/gigabyte-a520m-s2h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-a520m-s2h

 

Different motherboard because this one has bios flashback which may be required to update the bios, to support 5600g  (some A520 motherboards are still shipped with a BIOS that doesn't support 5600g by default, so bios flashback allows you to update bios without cpu, just by plugging a usb stick with the bios and pressing a button.

 

If you were just lazy and you plan to use it for other games or for upgrades to better CPUs in the future, really consider changing that motherboard as it's barebones and sucks.

 

Firstly, I've been looking for a motherboard for a while now but I can't settle on one, but with that amd motherboard it looks good, but it only has 1 m.2 slots, but I need 2, so is there a motherboard the same just with 2 m.2 slots.

 

Secondly, I don't want to get integrated graphics, because when I get my new computer I want to take advantage of the ray tracing of my gpu.

11 hours ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

Get different PSU: 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-mpg-a-gf-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a650gf

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/B9CD4D/antec-earthwatts-gold-pro-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ea650g-pro

Most lower wattage Power Supplies are same or similar cost to the 750w power supply, also it gives me a lot of headroom for upgrading and overclocking in the furure.

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12 hours ago, AGreninja101 said:

Most lower wattage Power Supplies are same or similar cost to the 750w power supply, also it gives me a lot of headroom for upgrading and overclocking in the furure.

It's not because of wattage, It's because of quality. MWE Bronze is low quality PSU, MSI and Antec I linked are high quality. YOu should not get such low quality PSU for a good system. If u want 750W, Sure, U can get, But get good quality one.

I recommend MSI A-GF 750W, Amazon has sale right now on it. https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08MWCYV65

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