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Is this as good as a x16 card?

Edward78
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4 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

It is probably going to be fine, it is not x4 that external GPUs use, which may limit performance.

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24 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

What do you mean with x16. PCI-e x16? It is a PCI-e3.0 x16 card!

By Hardware interface it says PCI Express x8.

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26 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

That's false. RTX 2060 is x16.

I figured, Amazon needs to make sure the info is right.  Oh man, I can do a tiny powerhouse/https://zscases.com/products/a4dc-v2 Just wish they had a LP CPU air cooler that could cool a R9 5900/50x, but no sense in overdoing it.  Just wish this had a GPU cutout & a FlexATX psu spot. Is nano atx psus good?

 

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PCI-E X8 cards do exist, but they're few and far between, example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AZ8EQBK/  Many lower end GPUs also only have X8 connected even though they have an X16 card for ... reasons?  The 2060 is definitely an X16 card though.

 

Of interest, almost all laptop, notebook, tablet, and mini-desktop GPUs are only connected over PCI-E X8.  So long as you're on current gen PCI-E, the performance hit is negligible going to X8, but the reduction in wire traces on the motherboard is extremely important in these small systems.

 

Example: PCI-E X8 4.0 has the same bandwidth as PCI-E X16 3.0, and you can find many reviews comparing 3.0 to 4.0, and some even where they start taping off lanes to reduce GPUs all the way to PCI-E 1X with little difference.

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Whould be good, for a sys in the C64 case. Just cutout a GPU spot.

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