Should I upgrade B450 -> B550 and 3200 CL16 -> 4000 CL16?

[PlayToBeat]

Hello,

I currently have:

Ryzen 5600X
RX 6800XT Nitro+

Asus B450M TUF GAMING PRO

2X8GB Corsair RGB 3200Mhz ram

3080TI/6900XT

 

I usually play Warzone and Forza on 165Hz QHD monitor. I was thinking to upgrade the CPU to the next "5800X" (should be announced next month) upgrade, the motherboard to Asus Strix B550-A and the ram to 3800~4000Mhz CL16 to get a more stable FPS (On Warzone it goes from 165 to 110 all the time...).

 

Do you think upgrading the Motherboard and the ram is fine? Should I?

 

Thanks.

[SignatureSigner]

I don't think you should get 4000mhz speed no.

not worth it

[PlayToBeat]

Just now, SignatureSigner said:

I don't think you should get 4000mhz speed no.

not worth it

and 3600Mhz? I saw on YouTube that chaning the ram affects a lot on Warzone.
What do you think about a motherboard?

[freeagent]

If your cpu can do 2000 fclk then grab them.. but if it can’t do 2K you are wasting your money.

[RAS_3885]

I don't think either change is worth it unless you specifically need something B550 offers that B450 does not.

[PlayToBeat]

3 minutes ago, freeagent said:

If your cpu can do 2000 fclk then grab them.. but if they can’t do 2K you are wasting your money.

Doesn't the MB play a role here as well?

2 minutes ago, RAS_3885 said:

I don't think either change is worth it unless you specifically need something B550 offers that B450 does not.

Only reliable performance (for the next "5800X" CPU). 

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

Hello,

I currently have:

Ryzen 5600X
RX 6800XT Nitro+

Asus B450M TUF GAMING PRO

2X8GB Corsair RGB 3200Mhz ram

3080TI/6900XT

 

I usually play Warzone and Forza on 165Hz QHD monitor. I was thinking to upgrade the CPU to the next "5800X" (should be announced next month) upgrade, the motherboard to Asus Strix B550-A and the ram to 3800~4000Mhz CL16 to get a more stable FPS (On Warzone it goes from 165 to 110 all the time...).

 

Do you think upgrading the Motherboard and the ram is fine? Should I?

 

Thanks.

Neither change is worth it really.

 

Your current board will handle a 5800x am4 is end of life anyway so you can't even get a 6800x anyway. The warzone behavior you see is normal that is because of warzone's bad optimization.

 

As for memory if you go beyond 3600mhz it is pointless for ryzen and it will perform worse because it is going beyond 2x it's 1900mhz flck clock and you get the best performance doing 1:1 with that.

 

So basically your upgrades will just be a waste of money and pointless. The jump from 3200mhz cl 16 to 3600mhz cl16 is also just not worth it and warzone won't become more stable. it's just how the game is.

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

Doesn't the MB play a role here as well?

Only reliable performance (for the next "5800X" CPU). 

Motherboard not really.

You can't get the next 5800x am4 is done. It's end of life.

[PlayToBeat]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Motherboard not really.

You can't get the next 5800x am4 is done. It's end of life.

AMD Ryzen CPUs with 3D V-Cache could power up gaming PCs by early 2022 | PCGamesN

They don't bring new CPUs around January?

[PlayToBeat]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Neither change is worth it really.

 

Your current board will handle a 5800x am4 is end of life anyway so you can't even get a 6800x anyway. The warzone behavior you see is normal that is because of warzone's bad optimization.

 

As for memory if you go beyond 3600mhz it is pointless for ryzen and it will perform worse because it is going beyond 2x it's 1900mhz flck clock and you get the best performance doing 1:1 with that.

 

So basically your upgrades will just be a waste of money and pointless. The jump from 3200mhz cl 16 to 3600mhz cl16 is also just not worth it and warzone won't become more stable. it's just how the game is.

 I understand.

What about Intel's 12th gen? Will perform better?

[GuiltySpark_]

5 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

AMD Ryzen CPUs with 3D V-Cache could power up gaming PCs by early 2022 | PCGamesN

They don't bring new CPUs around January?

This will be a refresh of Zen3, you are correct. 

 

3 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

 I understand.

What about Intel's 12th gen? Will perform better?

This is Intels current platform and its very fast. Depending on the application it could perform better, yes. There are many benchmarks and reviews out there to find more information there. 

[freeagent]

8 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

Doesn't the MB play a role here as well?

Not as much as you would think, it’s not like fsb in the sense that you need an awesome board to do 600-700 fsb. I would say it’s up to the cpu if it’s gonna play ball. My 5600X will do 2K stable, and bench at 2100 1:1, but my 5900X will not do 2K stable.

[PlayToBeat]

1 minute ago, rickeo said:

This will be a refresh of Zen3, you are correct. 

 

This is Intels current platform and its very fast. Depending on the application it could perform better, yes. There are many benchmarks and reviews out there to find more information there. 

I'll wait for the refresh of Zen 3 and try it on my current board. If it fails, I'll upgrade the MB.

 

 

 

 

Thank you all, I won't but anything yet.

[jaslion]

9 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

 I understand.

What about Intel's 12th gen? Will perform better?

In warzone it will experience the same behavior.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, PlayToBeat said:

I'll wait for the refresh of Zen 3 and try it on my current board. If it fails, I'll upgrade the MB.

 

 

 

 

Thank you all, I won't but anything yet.

That will most likely break the cpu so dont do that.

[GuiltySpark_]

I guess things have changed since I last read into the 3D V-Cache stuff. I guess we're not sure really if they'll be a refresh or related to Zen4/AM5 just yet. 

 

Regardless, don't buy anything.

[PlayToBeat]

1 minute ago, rickeo said:

I guess things have changed since I last read into the 3D V-Cache stuff. I guess we're not sure really if they'll be a refresh or related to Zen4/AM5 just yet. 

 

Regardless, don't buy anything.

Thank you

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

That will most likely break the cpu so dont do that.

It won't be supported on AM4 (B450 boards)?

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, PlayToBeat said:

Thank you

It won't be supported on AM4 (B450 boards)?

We don't officially know yet. That's what I was just saying above.

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

Thank you

It won't be supported on AM4 (B450 boards)?

As I've said multiple times am4 is not supposed to receive further support so it will be on a different socket. Plugging am5 into am4 is basically a great way to kill it.

[freeagent]

9 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Plugging am5 into am4 is basically a great way to kill it.

It won’t fit. AM4 has pins, AM5 will have pads, like Intel.

[PlayToBeat]

6 minutes ago, freeagent said:

It won’t fit. AM4 has pins, AM5 will have pads, like Intel.

I said it wrong. The refresh of Zen3 (the current one) Will be Zen3D (Not Zen4 which will fit AM5)

[GuiltySpark_]

2 minutes ago, PlayToBeat said:

I said it wrong. The refresh of Zen3 (the current one) Will be Zen3D (Not Zen4 which will fit AM5)

I've said this a few times now but to quote the site you linked:

 

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It’s unclear whether these processors will be part of a new Zen 4 microarchitecture or some kind of Zen 3 refresh, but we may get more details from AMD at CES 2022.